Posted on 06/26/2013 7:41:40 AM PDT by Deo volente
I don’t know what makes you say that. Sharia has nothing in common with our society. If they break our laws, they have to pay for it, like honor killings or wife beating for example. But making a law stating that sharia is against the law isn’t going to stop anything. Murder, assault, forced child marriages are already against the law.
Best solution is kick them all out of our tows by shunning them! Our society doesn’t want you! Some businesses don’t want to serve you and we don’t want our gov’t telling us we have to! Out parents don’t want your religion taught in our schools and we don’t want our gov’t telling us we have to!
Getting our fu#### up gov’t involved in our live has taken the power away from the people.
We could do the same thing about polygamist or any other deviant.
The decision FORCES gay “marriage” upon America! It’s gonna be a Homo Hoedown in San Francisco tonight!
THIS JUST IN. - - MIS-REPORTING Nationwide taking place says General Counsel.
"BREAKING NEWS: WASHINGTON D.C.
U.S. Supreme Court Announces Decision on Prop 8
... Just moments ago, the U.S. Supreme Court announced its decision in the Proposition 8 case.
It is widely being mis-reported that the Court ruled against Prop 8. IT DID NOT!
Rather, the Court said it could not reach a decision because California government officials refused to defend the law. So it did not rule on Prop 8's validity.
In doing so, the Court also nullified the Ninth Circuit's ruling against Prop 8, which is a great victory in itself!
So, the voter-passed Constitutional Amendment to protect man-woman marriage remains the law of the land in California, because only an appellate court can strike down a voter proposition statewide.
But it remains to be seen what California officials will do now.
Right now we are heading down the steps of the Supreme Court building to a long bank of TV cameras and reporters, to deliver this statement:
“We are pleased that the Supreme Court has reversed the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals’ misguided decision that sought to invalidate Proposition 8. For the more than seven million Californians who have seen their vote stripped away from them, little by little, over the course of five years, that decision is gratifying.
“While it is unfortunate that the Court’s ruling does not directly resolve questions about the scope of the trial court’s order against Prop 8, we will continue to defend Prop 8 and seek its enforcement until such time as there is a binding statewide order that renders Prop 8 unenforceable.
“We are also especially grateful and humbled by the consistent prayers and support of traditional marriage supporters everywhere throughout this long and difficult case.”
Please stay tuned for a detailed analysis of the Court's decision from our official Prop 8 Legal Defense Team. See also coverage by our dedicated co-counsel in the case, Alliance Defending Freedom.
But for now, let's be thankful that the Court refused to strike down Prop 8!
Very truly yours,
Andy Pugno Esq.
Prop 8 General Counsel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3035934/posts
read this thread to see what hppens when the gov’t gets involved. If the gov’t hadn’t the right to say who gets married in the first place, most people would have just shunned gay people who claimed to be married, which is a very small percentage of our population. Now they have a “legal right” to push it on our kids and businesses.
Again, the Common Law is very clear here, and is a pillar of American society.
You’ve knocked off one pillar just like that. What makes you think that trial by jury and habeaus corpus are going to be preserved?
This predates the constitution - the common law was in force in the colonies prior to the creation of the United States.
Yes, it is the law in America, has always been the law.
Hmmm...
" will be getting them, too. I don’t think either one of you should be getting those perks. You’re good with government graft just as long as people you don’t like getting it along with you. Welfare queens, all of you.
Okay, look. I haven't mentioned this before because it's a private issue, and I guess it just never came up. I'm married, but I don't have children due to fertility issues. But I have absolutely no problem with tax breaks for kids because the policy recognizes the vital importance of the family to society.
Ca claims to have direct democracy but when a majority of its citizens vote for somethng a few people don’t like, the court overturns it. They already had registered domestic partnership so marriage was about hijacking what is commonly a religious contract. They are already forcing small children to learn homosexuality. And businesses get sued if want to refuse service to them. Why do we allow the gov’t to get involved in the 1st place?
The purpose of the tax code should be to raise funds for the government to carry out it’s constitutionally authorized functions. It’s not for social engineering. You start down that road, guess where you end up?
BINGO!
In the United States, until the mid-19th century, common-law marriages were recognized as valid, but thereafter some states began to invalidate common-law marriages. Common-law marriages, if recognized, are valid, notwithstanding the absence of a marriage license. The requirement for a marriage license was used as a mechanism to prohibit whites from marrying blacks, mulattos, Japanese, Chinese, Native Americans, Mongolians, Malays or Filipinos. By the 1920s, 38 states used the mechanism.
I think we are arguing the same point. Marriage between a man and a woman has been common law, but it wasn’t until recent history that the gov’t got involved in issuing licenses. In England for years a marriage wasn’t invalidated without a license and then licenses were issued by the Church, not the State. Notice I said that gay people could CLAIM to be married, not that it would be accepted by common law.
Trial by jury and habeaus corpus have nothing to do with this issue. This issue is forcing people to accept something based on a private moral issue that most people have a religious objection to.
Catherine, that is exactly correct.
Homosexuality is not “just another sin.” Romans 1 teaches that it truly is an abomination which is brought by God as divine judgment upon nations for abandoning Him.
55 posted on 6/26/2013 10:00:03 AM by greene66: “America has truly descended into evil. I used to wonder if the country was even salvageable. Now, I question if it’s even ‘worth’ salvaging.”
Can someone tell me the real world of Chinese practices dealing with homosexuality, now that the hooliganism laws (which effectively criminalized homosexuality) have been dropped? This article certainly indicates that America's major competitor in the modern world takes a very dim view of homosexuality, even in its least restrictive city (Hong Kong):
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-02-21-gays-China-closeted_N.htm?csp=N009
If this article reflects current reality, I would not want to ask too many questions about which side God favors in the rising power of China vis-a-vis the United States. Nations which abandon God will be abandoned by Him, and that carries both spiritual and temporal consequences.
I have an idea for the coming year to try to prevent a full blown recognition of gay “marriage” under the equal protection clause.
Get “couples” (brothers, sisters, parent/child, man/ llama, etc.) from coast to coast to file suit demanding legal recognition from the state for their relationship and that it be called marriage.
This way we force the judiciary to articulate why we can’t discriminate against same sex couples but can against others.
Thoughts?
Exactly spot on. If there had been judicial integrity here, they should have said “we believe the plaintiff doesn’t have standing to bring this before the Federal Court, therefore, the lower FEDERAL court ruling is vacated on that basis and we refer it back to the state court’s last ruling”.
That would have made their decision intellectually consistent...however, what I am thinking....
You are correct. If their representation was invalid at the Supreme Court level, then it would have been invalid at the original jurisdiction court level. But, maybe, the USSC can only make a decision on the immediately prior court’s ruling - I don’t know.
“Well, maybe we can take some enjoyment in watching them hit the reality wall of unintended consequences with all the divorce suits that will follow thanks to the well-documented infidelity that’s part and parcel of most of their relationships.”
Already happening. That David Tuterra guy, the host of one of those bridal shows, can’t think which one, is in the middle of a nasty “divorce” because of his sex addiction and bringing other partners into the relationship. The complication? They have a surrogate pregnant with twins.
I consider myself to be a constitutional libertarian.
The war on drugs is a sad joke used to justify huge government and control over the people.
My basic philosophy on government is that the less impact it has on my life the better. Also, I don’t much care what others do as long as they don’t hurt me or tell me what to think about it.
Gay “marriage” goes against natural law and will lead to a fundamental breakdown of the family and society which hurts me. It will also bring the wrath of God on our nation which hurts me.
Abortion hurts and kills unborn children without due process. And talk about an equal protection violation.
Babies one day out of the womb are treated as valuable (penalty of murder for killing one) while babies one day from delivery are treated as a tissue mass to be removed at the option of the mother for any reason at all. There is no legitimate let alone compelling interest to treat such humans differently.
So my point is that Libertarians should be chastised, but libertarians (lower case l) are wide ranging in views.
Homosexuality is a sin, not a class of people (Leviticus 18:22).
It is a sin that needs to be repented of and forsaken like all other sins. The Supreme Court blew it big time and caused harm to America, our values, and our way of life.
Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Invite Him into your heart and repent of your sins today - He will come in, forgive you of your sins, make you new on the inside, and help you be the person He has called you to be.
They are essentially saying that Prop 8 STANDS because all other federal court decisions are now invalid, and so the state level decision is now operative. I can post the email verbiage for anyone interested.
Do you agree with majority concerning U.S. v Windsor?
I don't agree that the feds have any constitutional authority over marriage whatsoever.
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