[supercat]

Ansell, show proof of that. Give some specific examples of how

Many people who call themselves libertarians subscribe to some views which are, in fact, contrary to what libertarians should stand for because they've fallen for leftist equivocation.

For example, a proper libertarian would recognize that it is important for government to act as a registry for certain things. Many people, businesses, and institutions want to voluntarily provide benefits to people who are in a kind of relationship which has, since time immemorial, been recognized as so significant as to justify its own word: "marriage". Many such people, businesses, and institutions do not wish to provide such benefits for people who are in different kinds of relationships, and a libertarian should recognize their right not to do so. Unfortunately, libertarians fail to realize that

1. Having the government define the standards by which such relationships are proven is useful to those who wish to provide benefits to people in them, since without such standards answering what should be a simple question: "Marital status (Single/Married/Separated)" ends up being incredibly complicated [separated, meaning not married, but not presently eligible for remarriage]
2. The goal of the "gay marriage" movement is to deny people, institutions, and businesses the right to provide benefits to people who are married (in the sense the word has always meant) without providing those benefits to couples with other kinds of relationships. That goal is completely contrary to everything libertarians are supposed to stand for, but many libertarians are blind to it.

I really wish conservatives could have focused on the secular reasons to oppose "gay marriage", and exposed its anti-libertarian goals. Perhaps people will wake up and the backlash will put things back as they should be, but I'm not terribly confident.

[Finny]

"Libertarianism" as espoused by its official party is an oxymoron.

Libertarian principle is to refrain from using government except where necessary. Government is the only thign forcing people to accommodate homosexuality. It's the only thing forcing people to accomodate abortion. Libertarian principle in larger government would free local communities to govern themselves as their people see fit. It would free people to reap the consequences, positive and negative, of their choices. Most important, in keeping government out of the picture, it would free Christianity to do what it does best. Government in all its Federal heavy-handedness counteracts the actual pursuit of Christian values.