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To: cuban leaf
Children are wards of someone. A child really is not protected by the 4th ammendment.

Ah, so because they are wards of someone they can have their papers or effects searched and seized by a government official at-whim?
Or to be secure in their homes? I suppose this explains why CPS can just bust in on hearsay and take the children. I suppose, too, that this means that teachers can demand entry (to inspect the child's living conditions, or some other pretense) without any warrant [upon probable cause] supported by oath/affirmation.

4th Amendment:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

You're viewing the Constitution's relationship to the people in an incorrect manner: the constitution is not about the people, it is about the government — it does not bind your fellow citizen, but it binds your government.

14 posted on 07/02/2013 6:21:26 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

the constitution is not about the people, it is about the government — it does not bind your fellow citizen, but it binds your government.


You are preaching to the choir on that one. I have to school liberals on that constantly. It doesn’t grant rights. It protects God given rights from a state that would want to prevent them. It’s why there is no constitutional right to commit murder. God gives you the right to make that choice, but the governemnt has the right to try to stop you and punish you if you DO make that choice.


17 posted on 07/02/2013 6:32:43 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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