Posted on 07/02/2013 7:45:16 AM PDT by KeyLargo
Lawmaker says Quinn to amend concealed carry bill
By Associated Press
Gov. Pat Quinn will put an end Tuesday to weeks of speculation and waiting by using his amendatory veto powers to rewrite legislation allowing the concealed carry of weapons in Illinois, the bill's sponsor says.
State Rep. Brandon Phelps, a Harrisburg Democrat, said the governor's office told him Quinn will sign an amended bill Tuesday — seven days before a July 9 deadline to legalize carry of weapons after a federal appeals court found Illinois' last-in-the-nation ban unconstitutional.
Phelps said he was not told what will be changed but said he likely would try to override any amendments to the hard-won compromise.
The measure requires the same handgun-toting rules statewide. Quinn had advocated allowing larger cities to adopt their own restrictions in the name of "local control."
(Excerpt) Read more at dailyherald.com ...
Posted by Jordan S. Zoot, July 1, 2013 at 05:55 pm Comment Governor Quinn is set to announce an amendatory veto of HB-183 tomorrow with fanfare at the Thompson Center.
The Governor is rumored to be making several changes to the bill which would include: · Limiting individuals to carrying a single handgun with a single magazine and no more than 10 rounds of ammo.
· Changing the definition to where the handgun must be completely concealed as opposed to concealed or mostly concealed
· Banning carry in any place that serves alcohol except private clubs and residence. This would nullify the restaurant carry provisions of the bill.
· Inverting the no carry posting to make carry permissible only in places that post it is OK to carry a concealed firearm
· Allowing employers to ban firearms on their property and negate the safe harbor provisions.
· Remove the ability of individuals to get out of their vehicle and store their handguns in the trunk of their vehicle
Look for the Legislature to move to override the veto when they come back the 8th or 9th.
http://evanston.patch.com/groups/an-armed-society-is-a-polite-society/p/gov-quinn-to-use-amendatory-veto-on-ccw-law--state-legislature-to-override
That is a moronic state constitution- allowing the governor to amend legislation.... Might as well give the governor power to rule by decree....
Here in Tazewell county as well as the nearby counties of Peoria and Woodford, the states attorneys have announced that they will not prosecute concealed carriers as long as they have the F.O.I.D.
This is as free as it will ever be. This state is not going to continue to pass up a revenue opportunity like this.
Not surprising. The three scariest words in Illinois politics are: Governor. Pat. Quinn.
The difference between him and Blago is Quinn isn’t a corrupt idiot, just the ordinary kind. The only good news is, even with the D majority the backlash (even Democrats will hate this latest stunt) may be bad enough we’ll get a decent Governor next time around. Take a look at Bruce Rauner, who is running ads on TV already:
Illinois can be fixed, but not by Democrats OR traditional eGOP Republicans. Maybe Quinns legacy of utter incompetence will give a political newcomer like Rauner a decent chance.
The Governor of illinois must be a ‘bath-mate’ of Obama.
Limiting individuals to carrying a single handgun with a single magazine and no more than 10 rounds of ammo.
—This disallows those from carrying their favorite two snubnose revolvers, in a ‘New York Reload’ - basically a second carried gun.
· Changing the definition to where the handgun must be completely concealed as opposed to concealed or mostly concealed
— Here in luisiana, concealed means just that, not to be seen when the jacket pops open, as a means of intimidation.
· Banning carry in any place that serves alcohol except private clubs and residence. This would nullify the restaurant carry provisions of the bill.
—Go Ask Suzanna Hupp how that worked out!!
· Inverting the no carry posting to make carry permissible only in places that post it is OK to carry a concealed firearm
—STUPID!! Giving the restaurants the OK to claim they do not their patrons to be safe within their establishment.
AGAIN, go ask Suzanna Hupp.
· Allowing employers to ban firearms on their property and negate the safe harbor provisions.
—STUPID!! Allowing corporations to dictate what the People have already voted upon.
· Remove the ability of individuals to get out of their vehicle and store their handguns in the trunk of their vehicle
—Basically, “Uh Honey, I can’t go in the restaurant because they have a sign on the door, and I can’t get out of the car to put my snubbie in the trunk, either!”
When you actually think about it, a weapon with a large magazine is useful if you are DEFENDING yourself against a sudden, surprise attack, perhaps by more than one person.
If you are a deliberate killer, then all you really need is one bullet, or maybe three or four to be on the certain side. You get to pick the time, the distance, and have the benefit of surprise.
A gun with a large magazine isn’t an “assault” weapon. It’s a DEFENSE weapon. Having ten rounds is more than enough to invade a home and kill a few people, but it probably won’t be enough if a gang is outside your door, beating it down, and your best chance to stop them is to shoot through the door before they break it down.
Besides which, criminals don’t buy their guns or ammo on the legal market anyway, or bother with permits, so this limitation will mean nothing to them.
And it’s not as if even the dumbest politicians don’t know all that. But they don’t care.
Quinn’s intent is clear: He wants to make it so incredibly hard to carry (read the example about the restaurant) that people simply won’t carry at all, period.
Except, of course, for his 24 hour a day armed bodyguards, and those of Mr. Emanuel and Ms. Madigan.
Again I say, let Quinn’s bodyguards follow the same rules. If Quinn goes into a restaurant that serves alcohol, his armed guards can’t even go on the property because they can’t carry in there and they can’t leave it in their vehicles.
That oughta drive the point home.
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