[CutePuppy]

Ozzie Zehner, author of "Green Illusions", was once an electric car enthusiast. He even built an electric car, so he knows what he is talking about and understands all phases of manufacture and operation of electric cars.

There are many advantages to electric cars compared to conventional combustion engine (e.g., simplicity of design and quiet operation of the drivetrain) but the electrics are sold by the "environmentalists" and "green" politicians on the phony premises of lower costs of operation, much better mileage and "greenness" ("cheap and clean") without explanation of the TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) and "environment impact" shifting.

Zehner's detailed article is published in "href="http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/renewables/unclean-at-any-speed">Unclean at Any Speed: Electric cars don’t solve the automobile’s environmental problems - IEEE Spectrum, 2013 June 30

[CutePuppy]

Link: Unclean at Any Speed: Electric cars don't solve the automobile's environmental problems - IEEE Spectrum, 2013 June 30

[afraidfortherepublic]

My husband (a UC Berkeley graduate of the Engineering School) has maintained this all along, but you can’t get the politicians to listen. My husband says it’s because they are all attorneys and never had a chemistry, or science, course.

[Impala64ssa]

moving from petroleum-fueled vehicles to electric cars starts to appear tantamount to shifting from one brand of cigarettes to another
And they're just now figuring this out? I remember in physics class the first thing the teacher told us young skulls full of mush, for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. Not to mention, those batteries in the EV and hybrid cars, eventually they need to be replaced. What's the cost effectiveness, not to mention the negative enviro impact compared to overhauling a conventional engine?

[IYAS9YAS]

Of course, they’re laying the ground-work to ban all private automobiles by saying this. “See, we’re no better off, we should just ban them all...”

[MrB]

This is a direct attack on electric car owners sense of self worth, and I won’t stand for it!

Seriously, feeling self-righteous is 90% of the reason for buying one of these,
and if you point out that their feelings of self-righteousness are misplaced, it’s taken as a personal attack.

[Army Air Corps]

Ping.

[The Sons of Liberty]

Study: Electric cars no greener than gasoline vehicles

Are the simpletons finally figuring out that when you plug in an electric car, SOMEWHERE a power plant in chugging out exhaust from furnaces to generate the electricity?

[TigersEye]

Electric cars, ..., are among the environmentally dirtiest transportation options,...

Electric cars, ..., are among the environmentally dirtiest transportation options,...

Electric cars, ..., are among the environmentally dirtiest transportation options,...

I thought that bore repeating.

[thackney]

Writing in the journal IEEE Spectrum, researcher Ozzie Zehner says...

I found the original article and used that for a new thread.

Unclean at Any Speed, Electric cars don’t solve the automobile’s environmental problems
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3038294/posts

A bit long to add to the middle of this one.