I've read all your posts on this thread, Papa. There is nothing "socialist" in the argument against amnesty. The socialist argument is FOR amnesty, from both the Obamacrats AND RINOs in the GOP.
Automatically rewarding these people who broke into our country with the express intent of sticking it to us - and allowing them to FURTHER stick it to us by voting themselves from our treasury is suicide.
If they REALLY wanted to be Citizens, they'd do it the right way. They'd voluntarily go back where they came from and get in line, like millions of others have done and are still doing.
It's pretty clear and simple.
And for the record, calling people on this forum "Brown Shirts" is guaranteed to get you the flamenwerfer treatment every time. 99% of the folks out here are decent, law-abiding Patriot Americans who love this country, have bled for it, or have family members who bled and died for it.
My old man killed "brown shirts" for this country, and was wounded twice as a result of it, in Belgium and Germany.
So nix on the insults and Nazi crap - that's what the idiot libtards do. You're a relatively new sign-on (2011) so I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume you're still getting used to things here. I won't assume "Troll" yet.
"...What makes my blood boil is the Obamacrats stealing my money, carelessly spending it, making things like whether I wear my seat belt or have medical insurance their business while prohibiting states from stopping the abortion infanticide. THAT makes my blood boil...."
And if we automatically legalize 30 million new undocumented socialist democrats, you can virtually GUARANTEE that those trends will continue throughout the remainder of your lifetime.
If they can't prove they've come here legally, they should be deported back to point of origin, and the border closed.
There's nothing good that can come of this for the country, our people, and our continuation.
Don't know what else to say on it.
*Peals of laughter sounding from my keyboard*
The "automatic reward" is the part of the argument that I say is socialist becasue nobody wants these people to steal the "rewards" of government entitlements.
I said from the start that I think the borders should be secure. I also believe that if someone like Palin became who can speak to the American people like Reagan did, stood up and ran for President, I think alot of these people would flock to that person just like they did with Reagan.
As far a "calling people on this forum brown shirts", damn I've been called and seen a lot of others called a lot worse things than that on this forum. Kind of a double standard it seems to me. I've seen it before. When I don't tow the party line because of what I consider to be good reasons, I'm called a troll, an operative of the Left, and everything else in between. Shoot first and ask questions later.
Makes us look bad. I'm not saying everyone here is like that but sometimes on these kinds of threads with these kinds of issues that people feel so emotional about, sometimes it starts to look like a Hannity "Boiling Point" session rather than a reasoned and thoughtful debate.
And its not like I really meant to get in front of some kind of FR firing squad. That's what I meant by I wasn't sure if I should say anything. But I never see anything questioning the amnesty "party line" so to speak and I thought it might be helpful to inject another thoughtful point of view if for nothing else maybe to give some pause to reflect.