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51st state: Public meeting on Weld County proposal to secede from Colorado
7 News the Denver Channel ^ | July 8, 2013 | Anica Padilla

Posted on 07/08/2013 12:43:18 PM PDT by beaversmom

Officials with several Colorado counties interested in forming a 51st state scheduled a public meeting for Monday afternoon.

The meeting is being held at the Akron Fairgrounds at 551 East Second Street at 2 p.m. The public can attend the meeting, but will not have the opportunity to participate.

Weld County Commissioners told the Greeley Tribune they will also meet with leaders from counties in western Nebraska and Kansas, which have expressed interest in joining the effort.

Officials planned to consider how the boundaries of such a state would look and whether it's feasible, Weld County Commissioner Doug Rademacher told the Tribune.

When they announced their proposal earlier this month, Weld commissioners said they felt agriculture and oil and gas are under attack in the State Legislature, and the needs of rural Colorado counties are being ignored.

Rademacher told the Tribune if the proposal makes it to the November ballot, he expects voters to approve the creation of a new state by at least a 60 percent margin.

In spite of support for the idea, Rademacher said he doesn't expect it to actually happen.

Under guidelines in the U.S. Constitution, North Colorado would have to get the consent of the Colorado General Assembly and the U.S. Congress to move forward with forming its own state.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
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1 posted on 07/08/2013 12:43:18 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: george76; laplata; dynachrome

CO ping


2 posted on 07/08/2013 12:43:54 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

I think that creating a new state requires serious,widespread support...including from the entire US Congress.


3 posted on 07/08/2013 12:46:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yeah its not gonna happen. For one thing they’ve got to have enough population to get the same representation in DC as the rest of us.


4 posted on 07/08/2013 12:48:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: beaversmom

Sweet, two more conservative senate seats!

Maybe we should turn each conservative congressional district into a state.

I mean wyoming has one rep and two senators, why not have 100 more states and effectively steamroll the senate!


5 posted on 07/08/2013 12:48:33 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: beaversmom

This is interesting. If it gets traction, we’ll see California split up.


6 posted on 07/08/2013 12:51:13 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: beaversmom

The Philippines Should Become The 51st State
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1349175/posts


7 posted on 07/08/2013 12:51:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: beaversmom

If they go forward at all and it comes to a popular vote, they can count on me. I live in Douglas county but I’d vote to let them leave the State ASAP. They are correct. Denver metro sucks up all the monies that should be going to outer lying counties, but Denver has the majority of the population. Cities do that to states, such as New York City screws New York State. There should be a Constitutional limit on population density and voting.


8 posted on 07/08/2013 12:51:46 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: beaversmom

Thanks for the ping, beaversmom.


9 posted on 07/08/2013 12:52:46 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: GraceG

They need approximately another 600,000 people give or take a few to get representation in DC.


10 posted on 07/08/2013 12:53:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Yeah its not gonna happen. For one thing they’ve got to have enough population to get the same representation in DC as the rest of us.

I'm not sure that that's an issue...at least not a *Constitutional* issue.Each state is entitled to two US Senators and at least one Representative.The lack of support,I suspect,would come from the Party that would likely be *hurt* by the new state's existence,as well as the state legislature of the states that support that Party (California,Rat Party...Idaho,Republican Party for example).

11 posted on 07/08/2013 12:54:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: beaversmom

“In spite of support for the idea, Rademacher said he doesn’t expect it to actually happen.”

In Florida we had the “Conch Rebellion.”
http://www.conchrepublic.com/history.htm
In 1982 the Florida Keys seceded from the union. (It was a bunch of new-age hippies.) The US immediately retaliated with a blocade and stopped traffic and water from reaching the keys. The rebellion quickly died.

I think it was in the late ‘60’s that California was forming committees to investigate secession. Californians paid much more in taxes than they got back and decided they could go it alone. What killed it was they decided that for 4 million dollars they could give everybody health insurance. The first year they spent about 20 million and the next year it doubled. (People were flying in from Mexico in their private planes for free medical treatment.) California went, essentially, bankrupt. A quick search didn’t find this data but I remember it as it happened.

Colorado can’t do this as they’re a tax cash cow that, apparently, doesn’t require any maintenance. The milkers will never let them go.


12 posted on 07/08/2013 12:55:24 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: cripplecreek

They need approximately another 600,000 people give or take a few to get representation in DC.

I think the bordering states would be willing to donate a few counties to bring them up to that number!


13 posted on 07/08/2013 1:04:54 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: cripplecreek

think about delaware ... 2 senators, 1 representative. if we can get two more conservative senators, that would be great. actually, if we could get a total of two legitimately conservative senators (cruz is the only one i can think of), that would be great.


14 posted on 07/08/2013 1:09:02 PM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: GraceG
They need approximately another 600,000 people give or take a few to get representation in DC.

They're about halfway there.

The smallest population state is Wyoming, which had a population of 563,626 according to the 2010 census. The same census said the seven counties in NE Colorado (Weld, Logan, Morgan, Phillips, Sedgwick, Washington and Yuma) had a total population of 322,126 -- with Weld County accounting to over 78% of the total.

15 posted on 07/08/2013 1:13:39 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: pax_et_bonum

ping


16 posted on 07/08/2013 1:30:07 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: okie01

The smallest population state is Wyoming, which had a population of 563,626 according to the 2010 census. The same census said the seven counties in NE Colorado (Weld, Logan, Morgan, Phillips, Sedgwick, Washington and Yuma) had a total population of 322,126 — with Weld County accounting to over 78% of the total.

The Nebraska panhandle would probably love to team up with them that would add I think about 100K and maybe siome of maybe utah as well...


17 posted on 07/08/2013 1:31:14 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG
The Nebraska panhandle would probably love to team up with them that would add I think about 100K and maybe siome of maybe utah as well...

Utah's over on the other side of Colorado. Wyoming doesn't have any population too spare, so it would be up to the Nebraska panhandle and Western Kansas to make up the deficit.

There's a whole lotta nuthin' out there...

18 posted on 07/08/2013 1:37:19 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: beaversmom
When they announced their proposal earlier this month, Weld commissioners said they felt agriculture and oil and gas are under attack in the State Legislature, and the needs of rural Colorado counties are being ignored.

The legislature and governor have been too busy thinking up leftist extremist so-called "gun control" schemes.

19 posted on 07/08/2013 1:38:09 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

A congressional district represents a certain number of people. (approximately 700,000 people) Weld county has approximately 250,000 people and giving them two senators and a representative would give them far greater representation than the rest of the country.

Even if they could pull it off, it would lead to every liberal county in the country trying to do the same.


20 posted on 07/08/2013 1:39:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kevmo

“This is interesting. If it gets traction, we’ll see California split up.”

Yep, and west Texas has long felt that it does not get the attention and resect it deserves from the Governors office and.Texas legislature. Ninety percent of Texas residents live within 100 miles of the I-35 corridor. Consequently, this leaves not so many people but a whole lot of oil and gas in west Texas. They could get by real good without the dilettante’s in Austin.....


21 posted on 07/08/2013 1:47:07 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: okie01

Utah’s over on the other side of Colorado. Wyoming doesn’t have any population too spare, so it would be up to the Nebraska panhandle and Western Kansas to make up the deficit.

There’s a whole lotta nuthin’ out there...

Mayne just turn ther new colorado into a “doughnut state” and keep it named “Colorado” and make denver and Boulder into a new state called “Boulder State” otherwise already known as the “People’s Republic of Boulder”


22 posted on 07/08/2013 1:48:48 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Kevmo

Split up Cali? Oh noooooo... I am two blocks west on the wrong side of the Orange County Line...


23 posted on 07/08/2013 1:51:08 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: cripplecreek

“A congressional district represents a certain number of people. (approximately 700,000 people) Weld county has approximately 250,000 people and giving them two senators and a representative would give them far greater representation than the rest of the country.

Even if they could pull it off, it would lead to every liberal county in the country trying to do the same.”

Let them, once we get upwards of 100 states a very good case can then be made for a “re-partitioning” of the united states into three countries, each with their own ocean facing borders, Atlatic, Pacific and Gulf of Mexico.

Then the heartland could truly be free from the tyranny of the coasts and the coasts would no longer have the flyover country to whine and bitch about.


24 posted on 07/08/2013 1:52:20 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: cripplecreek
...they’ve got to have enough population...

District of Columbia 632,323
Vermont 626,011
Wyoming 576,412

...counties in western Nebraska and Kansas, which have expressed interest in joining the effort.

Offer 40 acres to conservative homesteaders and there might just be a huge influx of like minded people from the rest of the country.

Hey, if Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh can do it in Oregon and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in Iowa?

25 posted on 07/08/2013 1:59:07 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: BwanaNdege

District of Columbia 632,323
Vermont 626,011
Wyoming 576,412

All at least within sight of the goal.

Its not going to happen and I’d lay the deed to my house on it.


26 posted on 07/08/2013 2:02:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Probably not, but it is fun to raise the hackles of Gov. Chickenroper .... makes his look a bit like an effeminate SF escapee to Denver.


27 posted on 07/08/2013 2:07:31 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The short list would be the list of all administration officials that are NOT pathological liars!)
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To: beaversmom

Ah, an Upstate NY and a NYC as two different states. Nice!


28 posted on 07/08/2013 2:11:37 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: beaversmom

Form new states along or around the big rat cities, cut em off, tax the crap out of em for products going in/coming out, etc.


29 posted on 07/08/2013 3:25:54 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: BigEdLB

I’ll bet if you lobby the right people, you can end up on the proper side of the line. Either that, or ya gotta move... But it looks like it would be many years before ya even need to think about it.


30 posted on 07/08/2013 5:05:31 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: GraceG

Grew up in one of those bordering western Kansas counties. There just are not that many people out there! (Maybe if we start at Hays Kansas and go west)!


31 posted on 07/10/2013 11:13:12 AM PDT by teabager
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