Was Trayvon Martin Rear-Ended by Zimmerman? Z was intoxicated with own agenda and ambition

EURWeb ^ | July 9, 2013 | Larry Buford

[Mr. K]

So we should believe Trayvon’s mother when she says it is her son, but NOT the many other witnesses who said it was Z

And we should ignore that his own father originally said it was NOT Saint Skittles screaming.

I was thinking about this yesterday when it came up- my 3 daughters were outside playing and screaming with their friend and I could clearly pick out my 3

Trayvon’s mom is a liar. She does not care her young thug was at fault.

[Paladin2]

"...;camp on the 911 call...."

Zimmermann did not call 911.

[Sopater]

If Z didnt have a gun he would have probably been in the hospital

In a "best-case" scenario, yes. On the otherhand, he could be six-feet-under.

[Last Dakotan]

Z was intoxicated with own agenda and ambition

There's the difference; Zimmerman had an ambition, the thug - none.

[Blood of Tyrants]

http://projects.nytimes.com/crime/homicides/map

Interactive homicide map of NYC.

[Paladin2]

Hence “Creepy ass-cracker”.

[ozzymandus]

I am sick and tired of these racists trying to defend criminals.

[Sopater]

“Negligence is the failure to use reasonable care. Reasonable care is that degree of care which a reasonably careful person would use under like circumstances. Negligence may consist either in doing something that a reasonably careful person would not do under like circumstances or in failing to do something that a reasonably careful person would do under like circumstances.” (Florida Standard Jury Instructions, 4.1).

Yeah, a "reasonable" person would run away from a suspicious individual prowling around the neighborhood, and the prowler would count on law abiding citizens acting in this "reasonable" manner.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Nobody ever mentions that the burglaries in the neighborhood stopped after Martin was shot.

[KC_Conspirator]

Would this not prove that this case was overcharged from the start? Negligence is not bad intent.

I don't know Florida law, but looking at this case the best the state/prosecution should have sought would have been something akin to negligent involuntary manslaughter in the first place. Thats not second degree murder.

[oh8eleven]

[NEMDF]

A strong case could be made (and is being made, it seems) that GZ was using reasonable care in trying to head off and reduce crime in his neighborhood. A reasonable person, good citizen, could be expected to do the same. He was not neglectful.

[Kevmo]

And this is not a negligence case. The burden is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
***Unfortunately for GZ, this will become a negligence case when the family sues him.

[peeps36]

Would this goofball be pushing for a conviction based on this evidence if Zimmerman was black and Martin was white? I don't think so.

[CityCenter]

Good grief, next thing ya know they’ll be saying he killed TM just for the fame of it.

[Da Coyote]

Answer to the question.

A: Lots of robberies. Trevon fit the profile.

(Sorry, libs, but that’s sort of how pattern recognition works. Oh, forgot, pattern recognition is for grownups, not femlib nazis and other libarts marshmallow majors.)

[KC_Conspirator]

Leaving the truck was foolish but not illegal. Had the prosecutors focused on that the judge probably would have granted the motion for acquittal. And this is not a negligence case. The burden is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

Which was my earlier point; this case was overcharged from the start. If the state wanted to file charges with a reasonable chance of being successful (and fair for that matter), it would have to be a negligence case, not Murder 2.

[svcw]

Of course she is a liar, the parents didn’t even realize it was Martin that was killed, because it was not unusual for him to wonder off for days at a time.
His parents are using his death for financial gain, and will join the ranks of Jackson and Sharpton as race mongers, regardless of the verdict.
They are probably organizing the riots right now.
Martin was hopped up on drugs, had been using a broadcasting his use on twitter, suspended from school for drug use, and position.
He was not that 12 year old in the picture.

[NotYourAverageDhimmi]

Honestly, few in the black community can rationally talk on topics that involve black people. They get far too emotional, and don't let facts get in the way of their already race-based preconceived notions. We see it with criticism of Obama, and we certainly see it with Trayvon Martin.

I can' tell you how may times I've now discussed the case with black people only to have them conclude that...

Zimmerman profiled Martin... so Zimmerman is guilty of murder.

Or Zimmerman followed Martin... so Zimmerman is guilty of murder.

Or Zimmerman disregarded the dispatcher's suggestion to remain in place... so Zimmerman is guilty of murder.

After the hundredth time explaining that even if we accept those statements to be true, that alone is not dispositive of Zimmerman being guilty of murder. That's usually when the other party becomes even more incredulous and emotional. It's not worth arguing. The black community sees the case (and other aspects of American life) differently than all others, you're not going to change their mind, so why argue.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Northfield, Minnesota.