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Pakistan : Report says US Bin Laden raid 'an act of war'
Aljazeera ^ | Last Modified: 09 Jul 2013 09:04 | Asad Hashim

Posted on 07/09/2013 5:42:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

USA Today had a very different Title for the Report

Pakistan's Mea Culpa

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Al Jazeera's Investigative Unit leaked the report on Monday, The unit's Josh Berstein filed this report

The unilateral decision by the US to launch a military operation to capture or kill Osama Bin Laden on Pakistani territory constituted "an act of war", a Pakistani government investigation has found.

The report of the Abbottabad Commission, which investigated the circumstances around the raid and how the al-Qaeda leader came to live in the country for nine years without apparently being detected, was exclusively released by Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit on Monday.

The report of the commission, formed in June 2011 to probe the circumstances around the killing of bin Laden by US forces in a unilateral raid on the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, had earlier been suppressed by the Pakistani government.

The raid illustrated Washington's "contemptuous disregard of Pakistan’s sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity in the arrogant certainty of […] unmatched military might", the report concluded in its "Findings" section.

In the same section, the report also details the "comprehensive failure of Pakistan to detect the presence of Bin Laden on its territory for almost a decade".

The report draws on testimony from more than 200 witnesses, including members of Bin Laden's family, Pakistan's then spy chief, senior ministers in the government and officials at every level of the military, bureaucracy and security services.

Scathing report

The commission's 336-page report is scathing, holding both the government and the military responsible for "gross incompetence" leading to "collective failures" that allowed both Bin Laden to escape detection, and the US to be able to violate Pakistani sovereignty by carrying out an attack on its soil without the knowledge of the military or the government.


(Excerpt) Read more at aljazeera.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; binladen; osama; osamabinladen; pakistan; usama; vinladen; wot
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To: nickcarraway
Pakistan doesn't want to go to war with the U.S., so nothing will come of it, but, yeah, it was an act of war.

Only because they cannot reach us. They can however reach India. They just sent funding to the Pakistani terrorist group responsible for the terrorist attack on Mumbai. Wonder what that group is planning ?

41 posted on 07/09/2013 7:38:16 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I still think it was a snatch raid that went bad. Had the chopper not crashed, we never would have heard of it.


42 posted on 07/09/2013 7:42:11 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: rbmillerjr
So you were against the raid to kill Bin Laden?

Honestly, I don't have enough information to know.

Hmmmm, well, the U.S. was harboring bin Laden in 1999 and 2000 (in Kosovo), and before that we let him off the hook before that, so maybe they got the idea that wasn't an issue with us.

43 posted on 07/09/2013 7:51:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: justa-hairyape
Well, India is obviously Pakistan's main geopolitical rival. But I've read the population is not as eager for that fight anymore.

Only because they cannot reach us.

Some people in Pakistan might hate the U.S., but I don't think anyone wants to invade the U.S.


We did the Pakistani government a favor by getting rid of bin Laden, they didn't want him there. He was trouble for them. But there is to large a group there that would have made more trouble if they turned him over. But, the U.S. operation made them look stupid and vulnerable. And no country could just look the other way, when something like this happens on their soil. They have make a stink about.

44 posted on 07/09/2013 7:59:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

(So you were against the raid to kill Bin Laden?)

“Honestly, I don’t have enough information to know.”

Wow. What possible information could you need?

“Hmmmm, well, the U.S. was harboring bin Laden in 1999 and 2000 (in Kosovo)”

LINKS ?


45 posted on 07/09/2013 8:04:25 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So was harboring bin Laden. Lets nuke Islamabad and see how they feel about war with the US.


46 posted on 07/09/2013 8:11:24 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: nickcarraway
Some people in Pakistan might hate the U.S., but I don't think anyone wants to invade the U.S.

What they could do is a Mumbai style attack on a city. Would only need a dozen or two for that. And we know they can approach with small craft virtually undetected.

47 posted on 07/09/2013 8:39:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: nickcarraway
Pakistan doesn't want to go to war with the U.S., so nothing will come of it, but, yeah, it was an act of war.

Was hiding Bin Laden from us for 9 years an act of war?
Didn't Bush say that if you are providing terrorists with a base of operations in your country you are part of the terrorist problem?
The pakis had been advised and they chose to play dumb.

48 posted on 07/09/2013 8:50:54 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So what?

“They can bill me”.


49 posted on 07/09/2013 9:08:56 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sounds to me like an admission that they were harboring him.

Pakistan applying for the terrorist nation status?


51 posted on 07/09/2013 11:08:58 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: nickcarraway

One could also argue their harboring of him, for several years, down the road from Pakistan’s West Point, was also an Act of War.


52 posted on 07/10/2013 7:59:55 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

How about harboring a terrorist responsible for the deaths of thousands of people? How is THAT not an “act of war”?

They were lucky we didn’t carpet bomb them with B-52s when we found out.


53 posted on 07/10/2013 9:31:51 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And supporting our enemy was (and still is) an act of arrogant stupidity.


54 posted on 07/10/2013 9:33:41 AM PDT by grania
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To: rlmorel

Yes. I can think of the equivalent offences by analogy in criminal law: accessory after the fact to multiple counts of murder, attempt murder, party/accessories to any post facto (to 911) terrorist planning and executions, obstruction of justice, etc. It’s the ummah though and a fellow brother in the religion of peace.


55 posted on 07/10/2013 1:03:28 PM PDT by Lent
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It was. So was harboring osama.


56 posted on 07/13/2013 10:23:52 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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