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George Zimmerman's Prosecutors Want To Charge Him With Child Abuse, And His Lawyer Is Freaking Out
Business Insider ^ | 07/11/2013 | CHRISTINA STERBENZ

Posted on 07/11/2013 9:21:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

George Zimmerman's prosecutors want to add lesser charges for the death of Florida teen Trayvon Martin, including manslaughter and third-degree murder, possibly because they're worried he'll be acquitted. Originally, Zimmerman just faced second-degree murder charges for shooting and killing 17-year-old Martin. He claims self-defense, saying that Martin punched him in the face and smashed his head into the sidewalk.

In the state of Florida, third-degree murder doesn't require proving that Zimmerman acted with some sort of "ill will" or hatred. The new charge, however, does need a felony-basis. In a surprising move, the prosecution argued Zimmerman committed child abuse as the felony required for third-degree murder.

Richard Mantei, one prosecutor in the case, explained, "When one commits ... child abuse, and the child dies — the child being defined as a person under the age of 18 — that can constitute felony murder in the third degree." Judge Debra Nelson noted that child abuse must be intentional. "Shooting is an intentional act. The question is whether is was justifiable, not intentional," Mantei responded.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; childabuse; florida; george; georgezimmerman; rehash; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: SeekAndFind

Child abuse?!!!!!!!
My jaw dropped.
This is lower than pond scum.

The StSkittle parents should be charged with child abuse. What in the blazes was he doing outside that time of night if he’s a child? Why did they not have a babysitter for him?

OTOH, Mr Zimmerman stopped StSkittle’s unhealthy sugary diet which Moochelle would not approve of.


61 posted on 07/11/2013 9:43:44 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: relictele

SOMEONE is getting marching orders from SOMEBODY, and it doesn’t take much imagination to guess what’s really going on here.


62 posted on 07/11/2013 9:43:51 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: TexasCajun
The DA should be embarrassed.

Thugs and tyrants are never embarrassed by what they do.

63 posted on 07/11/2013 9:44:05 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Wiser now

Another black eye for Florida. I’ll never go there again.


64 posted on 07/11/2013 9:44:33 AM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not just add impure thoughts against the state? Oh that’s right we already have that with civil rights persecution.


65 posted on 07/11/2013 9:44:47 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: rockrr

Perhaps they should amend charges to include illegal parking as well.....Discharging a weapon with/in the city limits: Life in prison or whenever you are killed.


66 posted on 07/11/2013 9:45:21 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The huge problem with working for a depraved client like the government is this:

Your boss can dictate to you how to handle your case.

Now, the ethical rules clearly state that as a licensed attorney YOU MUST exercise your own independent professional judgment.

This prosecutor should simply tell his boss to go to hell. His boss is conducting a political prosecution, unethical and twisted. Completely and totally disgusting and revolting of the client (the government) to insist on.

I can and frequently do tell my clients I cannot make the argument they want and won’t follow client instructions that are illegal.

Don’t these prosecutors have any spine?


67 posted on 07/11/2013 9:45:58 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Doing everything to avoid a “not guilty” verdict that sticks, including forcing a mistrial.

Damn, piling on charges after a competent defense for one charge? Ya think new charges might have meant a different defense? What’s she doing, trying to get whites to riot for total breakdown of judicial system? WTF, judge?


68 posted on 07/11/2013 9:46:02 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: 0.E.O

But to pull this at this late point in the trial?...They have their orders.


69 posted on 07/11/2013 9:47:32 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The governments want the riots. These moves are just to embolden the low information riots further, that the white system is against them, and the government is FOR them.

It is really setting the “white old ladies of the Jury” up for attacks.


70 posted on 07/11/2013 9:48:13 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Logical me

USA is nothing but a joke.

It`s the Beast System with it`s Echelon/PRISM and it has wonderful Troika Show Trials.

You are Guilty ! Period,end of story and we will convict you of something.


71 posted on 07/11/2013 9:48:33 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: from occupied ga

Good luck with that. The 2nd amendment assumes a public armed to the point of any government agency. Even the Department of Education has their own SWAT team.

Since Obama has had five + years to reshape the military, we can hardly expect help from the homosexual, feminists that will be the norm in the military at any time. Add to that fact that any officer over the rank of Captain is all about diversity and opportunity and we have all the signs of a lost Republic.


72 posted on 07/11/2013 9:48:36 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I can give you an example.

I was selected to serve on a jury. The case was sexual assault on a stepchild.

On break another member of the selected jury who was a member of law enforcement was chatting with me.

He told me, that before the final selection of jurors was made both of us would be off the jury. I asked him why he thought so, and he told me that he could guarantee that no member of law enforcement, teacher, or a mother with a child would be on the jury.

He was correct at the end none of us who fit that category were in the jury.

73 posted on 07/11/2013 9:48:42 AM PDT by mware
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To: SeekAndFind

This has Obama and Holders prints all over it..

IF THE BLACKS CAUSE A RIOT THEN THE HISPANICS AND WHITES SHOULD TAKE CARE OF IT..

God Please take care of George Zimmerman and do not let these monsters get away with this crime..Send your angels to camp a around the juries and George Zimmerman..we should all pray for this young man and the jury..


74 posted on 07/11/2013 9:49:46 AM PDT by PLD
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To: SeekAndFind

A this point they are so deperate to get a conviction on ANYTHING, it wouldn’t surprise me if they tried to charge Zimmerman with unlawful disposal of a corpse


75 posted on 07/11/2013 9:49:56 AM PDT by apillar
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Women are predisposed to see all men as abusers. It is a wonderful result of the BS feminist movement that has done so much good for our society that we are the verge of complete economic and social collapse.

The war on men and boys, particularly white men and boys, is reaching a boiling point. They have already destroyed the Black men in this country.


76 posted on 07/11/2013 9:52:01 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: headstamp 2

A real joke though. This is the big corrupt goverment at work and NOT ONE PERSON in power helped or stopped this fraud. The conservative Republicans were initally on the “Justice for Trayvon” side now they’re silent as they see some media (mostly conservative outlets) uncover what a scam this entire thing was. Republicans of FL, your great Governor did this you know? He unleashed Corey on Zimmerman at the feet of Obama and Holder and their rent a mob.


77 posted on 07/11/2013 9:52:23 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: blueunicorn6
In all likelihood, they're content to collect the goodies from the administration and keep their mouths shut on this one. Doubtful they see this case as a present threat to themselves since the media has labeled George a "white" Hispanic.

In other words, politically they're off the hook.

78 posted on 07/11/2013 9:52:23 AM PDT by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: headstamp 2

A real joke though. This is the big corrupt goverment at work and NOT ONE PERSON in power helped or stopped this fraud. The conservative Republicans were initally on the “Justice for Trayvon” side now they’re silent as they see some media (mostly conservative outlets) uncover what a scam this entire thing was. Republicans of FL, your great Governor did this you know? He unleashed Corey on Zimmerman at the feet of Obama and Holder and their rent a mob.


79 posted on 07/11/2013 9:52:24 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: jimfree
A lesser included offense is, by name and definition, included. That is to say, you can establish it from the elements of the charged offense.

Yes and no. In this case, the charge actually requires a different defense. Robbery is a lesser charge than murder, but I cannot wait until after you have rested your defense against murder to also charge you with taking $50 from the cash register.

80 posted on 07/11/2013 9:52:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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