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Harry Reid Moves to Destroy the Senate Rules that are Blocking Passage of Gun Control
GOA ^ | July 11, 2013 | GOA Staff

Posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:58 PM PDT by EXCH54FE

You can’t be “just a little bit pregnant.”

Similarly, you can’t cheat “just a little.”

Once you have made it clear that you are willing to break the rules in order to win, the rules are meaningless.

So it is with some alarm that we note that Harry Reid -- in an exercise of raw power -- intends within the next week to try to openly break the Senate rules in order to confirm all pending Executive Branch nominees.

You may remember that, at the beginning of the year, Reid made the specious argument that you could change the rules at the beginning of a two-year congressional session -- and only at the beginning of the congressional session.

Well, we are no longer at the start of the term.

A quarter of the 113th Congress had now come and gone. And even the pseudo-intellectual arguments for obliterating the Senate rules are gone.

This is an exercise in raw political power. This is an effort by Reid to say: “I can cheat whenever I want. And no one can stop me.”

The first showdown case will occur over efforts to fill the National Labor Relations Board. You may remember that Obama was slapped down by the courts for appointing these “members” as “recess appointments” when Congress wasn’t in recess.

Now, having been caught cheating, Obama and Reid are threatening to tip over the chess board in order to confirm these illegal “recess appointments.”

But that’s just the beginning.

Once it is impossible to filibuster Executive Branch appointments, Obama will soon carry through on his word to slam through a rabidly anti-gun zealot to head the ATF.

And does anyone think that the Senate would comply with the niceties of the rules it has obliterated -- if what was at stake was an anti-gun zealot nominated to the Supreme Court in order to overturn the Heller and McDonald decisions?

Finally, it is just not credible for Reid to say: “I’m going to cheat. But I’m going to define the way in which I cheat to limit my cheating to this narrow way.”

All year, MSNBC has been whining that Democrat gun control has been thwarted by the Senate filibuster rules.

If the Senate’s filibuster rules are obliterated, you can be sure that the Toomey-Manchin amendment -- with its universal gun registries -- would soon be brought up again and passed.

Gun owners should realize that the Feinstein gun and magazine bans lost by such a large margin only because a lot of anti-gun senators knew they would not muster the 60 votes needed. If there were a 50-vote margin -- and their votes made a difference -- many of these anti-gunners would switch their votes and pass Feinstein.

So the reason gun control did not pass is because the Senate rules allowing us to filibuster it. They may seem dry and boring, but the question of whether we win or lose will depend on them.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; harryreid; mafiadeb; nevada; reid; secondamendment; senate
Contact Your Senator . Tell him to oppose Harry Reid’s “cheat scheme” to violate the Senate rules in order to change the Senate rules.
1 posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:58 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE
Harry Reid Moves to Destroy the Senate Rules that are Blocking Passage of Gun Control

There still the little matter of the Republican house, but still a valid concern, I guess.

2 posted on 07/11/2013 1:09:59 PM PDT by apillar
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To: EXCH54FE

These leftists are determined to push us too far.


3 posted on 07/11/2013 1:10:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: EXCH54FE

I for wish they would pass complete gun control with a no holds barred take every one’s firearms for the safety of the children.

That way we could get this show on the road and get it over with. Come to every town and require everyone to turn in ALL their firearms, everything, even ammo.


4 posted on 07/11/2013 1:11:13 PM PDT by stockpirate (If conservatives in America were committed to liberty they would Cairo DC!)
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To: EXCH54FE

The House has to pass ‘gun control’ Bill as well-won’t happen.


5 posted on 07/11/2013 1:12:28 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: EXCH54FE

OBTW - since the SCOTUS overturned DC’s gun control law crime has been going down for the last 8 years.


6 posted on 07/11/2013 1:12:33 PM PDT by stockpirate (If conservatives in America were committed to liberty they would Cairo DC!)
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To: EXCH54FE

They successfully maintained the control of the senate in 2010 and 2012, and they successfully reelected the president. What is now in their way are 43 republican senators and over 218 republican house members.

Eliminate the filibuster and all that remains is the 218 republican house members. And they are planning to do that in fourteen short months.

Any barrier to their power is summarily removed or destroyed.


7 posted on 07/11/2013 1:18:13 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: EXCH54FE

Good idea Harry because we all know what a real winner that always is.

Well worth proving what utter scum all of you really are, right?

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8 posted on 07/11/2013 1:20:04 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: skeeter

How else are they going to have an excuse to use the power of the State to murder their political enemies?


9 posted on 07/11/2013 1:21:21 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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10 posted on 07/11/2013 1:23:36 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Limiting the filibuster would apply only to nominations.


11 posted on 07/11/2013 1:23:36 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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I fail to understand how Democrats can get away with actions that prove problematic for Republicans.


12 posted on 07/11/2013 1:24:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Why is the GOA (as well as any Freeper) concerned now about SCOTUS nominees?

We knew that last fall before the election. And some chose to stay home.


13 posted on 07/11/2013 1:25:51 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: EXCH54FE

Democrat Harry Reid, Democrat Obama , democrat Pelosi, Democrat Fienstien, democrat shumer, democrat Durbin , democrat news reporters. there have never been a more evil group of “people” ever . that is democrats pure evil hard core communists one and all


14 posted on 07/11/2013 1:26:17 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: EXCH54FE
(from the article):"So it is with some alarm that we note that Harry Reid -- in an exercise of raw power -- intends within the next week to try to openly break the Senate rules in order to confirm all pending Executive Branch nominees. "

So the little dictator is taking lessons from the messiah dictator !!

EXCH54FE~:"Tell him to oppose Harry Reid’s “cheat scheme” to violate the Senate rules in order to change the Senate rules."

Where there is no "Rule of Law" , only the lawless have their way: ie : Zero , Holder , Hilldebeast ,Clapper , Lerner , etc., etc...

Oh Lord ,..please bless someone in the Senate with Chutzpah , and a pair ...!

15 posted on 07/11/2013 1:29:31 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: EXCH54FE

You’re kidding, right? Do you think these SOB’s will listen? Dream on. When was the last time they listened to us? We have one choice left.


16 posted on 07/11/2013 1:41:29 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: gunner03
"We have one choice left."

ONE !

17 posted on 07/11/2013 1:53:26 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: EXCH54FE

So basically, Robert’s Rules of Order take precedence over the oath of office?

KYPD


18 posted on 07/11/2013 1:59:07 PM PDT by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: stockpirate
OBTW - since the SCOTUS overturned DC’s gun control law crime has been going down for the last 8 years.

Well, yeah, stockpirate, but Eric "the Red" Holder is preparing to send in community organizers to drive crime rate numbers back up where they belong. If any bunch of vermin could accomplish that task...!

19 posted on 07/11/2013 2:04:10 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: EXCH54FE
Come on now, you're just an anti-mormon bigot !

He's only doing after all what the "gods" told his his "prophet" to command....

Mormons told not to join or support right wing groups or buy guns and ammo.


Breakaway LDS Sect "Prophets" Charles Monson, and Dallin Oaks hanging out in the oval office with partners in crime Obama and temple recommend holding Harry Reid.

20 posted on 07/11/2013 2:04:11 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: EXCH54FE

An Outlaw President from an Outlaw Senate.


21 posted on 07/11/2013 2:32:02 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Perdogg

If Romney had been nominated, they would have already passed all this stuff.


22 posted on 07/11/2013 2:36:22 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: EXCH54FE

Im am thinking this has as much to do with Zer0 planning to sign the UN gun control treaty as anything else. If you do away with Senate rules, you can ratify anything.


23 posted on 07/11/2013 2:36:27 PM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: RatRipper

No, treaties still require 2/3rd votes


24 posted on 07/11/2013 2:38:55 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

No, treaties need 2/3 of PRESENT Senate members (in a quorum).....less than 30 IIRC.


25 posted on 07/11/2013 3:20:14 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: EXCH54FE
I've been wondering what sort of harbinger could top either 9/11/2001 or the melt down of 2008.

Given all that's happened since 2008, and whatever our feckless leadership is building to use against US, I'm beginning to see where this thing is heading for 2015.

I think we're looking at a real show stopper in the making, my FRiends, and I think I'm going to start watching those prepper shows.

"Prepare" seems like a very good idea all of a sudden.

26 posted on 07/11/2013 3:31:31 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: EXCH54FE

Senator wicker of Mississippi is probably shaking his pom poms for harry reid. He is going to go along with anything that the dims want. He is just like trent lott.

LLS


27 posted on 07/11/2013 3:41:19 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Perdogg
Three to four million registered republicans didn't vote... it is not their fault but the fault of the gop/e. Winning is meaningless if you elect republicans that govern like rats. I voted for romney but I will never vote for another republican blue blood. The gop is very close to seeing a new party form to take their power and position away. Even if it takes decades... and what the gop/e does in the next 6 months will decide what America looks like going forward.

LLS

28 posted on 07/11/2013 3:46:02 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: EXCH54FE

The same toxic DC ooze that is turning once conservative Republicans, i.e., Ryan, Rubio, into flaming liberals is now leeching into Dingy Harry’s brain — making him crazier than ever.


29 posted on 07/11/2013 4:03:27 PM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks EXCH54FE.

Reid sets up Senate showdown, calls for votes on seven Obama nominees
The Hill | July 11, 2013 | Alexander Bolton
Posted on 07/11/2013 2:09:49 PM PDT by jazusamo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3041815/posts


30 posted on 07/11/2013 4:42:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SENTINEL
Not quite accurate... try the actual quote itself:

"... cautioned Mormons against joining or supporting right-wing groups who mistakenly apply prophecies about the last days to promote efforts to form paramilitary or other organizations."

31 posted on 07/11/2013 8:07:43 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: LibLieSlayer
Yes, the Missing Whites Matter

It might have been 6 million white voters stayed home, mostly working class whites.

32 posted on 07/12/2013 5:54:23 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

No doubt... we had many here on FR that refused to vote. republicans had better quit listening to satan whispering through rove and preibus and start paying attention to the real world.

LLS


33 posted on 07/13/2013 4:12:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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