Skip to comments.Harry Reid Moves to Destroy the Senate Rules that are Blocking Passage of Gun Control
Posted on 07/11/2013 1:07:58 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
You cant be just a little bit pregnant.
Similarly, you cant cheat just a little.
Once you have made it clear that you are willing to break the rules in order to win, the rules are meaningless.
So it is with some alarm that we note that Harry Reid -- in an exercise of raw power -- intends within the next week to try to openly break the Senate rules in order to confirm all pending Executive Branch nominees.
You may remember that, at the beginning of the year, Reid made the specious argument that you could change the rules at the beginning of a two-year congressional session -- and only at the beginning of the congressional session.
Well, we are no longer at the start of the term.
A quarter of the 113th Congress had now come and gone. And even the pseudo-intellectual arguments for obliterating the Senate rules are gone.
This is an exercise in raw political power. This is an effort by Reid to say: I can cheat whenever I want. And no one can stop me.
The first showdown case will occur over efforts to fill the National Labor Relations Board. You may remember that Obama was slapped down by the courts for appointing these members as recess appointments when Congress wasnt in recess.
Now, having been caught cheating, Obama and Reid are threatening to tip over the chess board in order to confirm these illegal recess appointments.
But thats just the beginning.
Once it is impossible to filibuster Executive Branch appointments, Obama will soon carry through on his word to slam through a rabidly anti-gun zealot to head the ATF.
And does anyone think that the Senate would comply with the niceties of the rules it has obliterated -- if what was at stake was an anti-gun zealot nominated to the Supreme Court in order to overturn the Heller and McDonald decisions?
Finally, it is just not credible for Reid to say: Im going to cheat. But Im going to define the way in which I cheat to limit my cheating to this narrow way.
All year, MSNBC has been whining that Democrat gun control has been thwarted by the Senate filibuster rules.
If the Senates filibuster rules are obliterated, you can be sure that the Toomey-Manchin amendment -- with its universal gun registries -- would soon be brought up again and passed.
Gun owners should realize that the Feinstein gun and magazine bans lost by such a large margin only because a lot of anti-gun senators knew they would not muster the 60 votes needed. If there were a 50-vote margin -- and their votes made a difference -- many of these anti-gunners would switch their votes and pass Feinstein.
So the reason gun control did not pass is because the Senate rules allowing us to filibuster it. They may seem dry and boring, but the question of whether we win or lose will depend on them.
There still the little matter of the Republican house, but still a valid concern, I guess.
These leftists are determined to push us too far.
I for wish they would pass complete gun control with a no holds barred take every one’s firearms for the safety of the children.
That way we could get this show on the road and get it over with. Come to every town and require everyone to turn in ALL their firearms, everything, even ammo.
The House has to pass ‘gun control’ Bill as well-won’t happen.
OBTW - since the SCOTUS overturned DC’s gun control law crime has been going down for the last 8 years.
They successfully maintained the control of the senate in 2010 and 2012, and they successfully reelected the president. What is now in their way are 43 republican senators and over 218 republican house members.
Eliminate the filibuster and all that remains is the 218 republican house members. And they are planning to do that in fourteen short months.
Any barrier to their power is summarily removed or destroyed.
Good idea Harry because we all know what a real winner that always is.
Well worth proving what utter scum all of you really are, right?
How else are they going to have an excuse to use the power of the State to murder their political enemies?
Limiting the filibuster would apply only to nominations.
I fail to understand how Democrats can get away with actions that prove problematic for Republicans.
Why is the GOA (as well as any Freeper) concerned now about SCOTUS nominees?
We knew that last fall before the election. And some chose to stay home.
Democrat Harry Reid, Democrat Obama , democrat Pelosi, Democrat Fienstien, democrat shumer, democrat Durbin , democrat news reporters. there have never been a more evil group of “people” ever . that is democrats pure evil hard core communists one and all
So the little dictator is taking lessons from the messiah dictator !!
EXCH54FE~:"Tell him to oppose Harry Reids cheat scheme to violate the Senate rules in order to change the Senate rules."
Where there is no "Rule of Law" , only the lawless have their way: ie : Zero , Holder , Hilldebeast ,Clapper , Lerner , etc., etc...
Oh Lord ,..please bless someone in the Senate with Chutzpah , and a pair ...!
You’re kidding, right? Do you think these SOB’s will listen? Dream on. When was the last time they listened to us? We have one choice left.
So basically, Robert’s Rules of Order take precedence over the oath of office?
OBTW - since the SCOTUS overturned DCs gun control law crime has been going down for the last 8 years.
Well, yeah, stockpirate, but Eric "the Red" Holder is preparing to send in community organizers to drive crime rate numbers back up where they belong. If any bunch of vermin could accomplish that task...!
He's only doing after all what the "gods" told his his "prophet" to command....
Breakaway LDS Sect "Prophets" Charles Monson, and Dallin Oaks hanging out in the oval office with partners in crime Obama and temple recommend holding Harry Reid.
An Outlaw President from an Outlaw Senate.
If Romney had been nominated, they would have already passed all this stuff.
Im am thinking this has as much to do with Zer0 planning to sign the UN gun control treaty as anything else. If you do away with Senate rules, you can ratify anything.
No, treaties still require 2/3rd votes
No, treaties need 2/3 of PRESENT Senate members (in a quorum).....less than 30 IIRC.
Given all that's happened since 2008, and whatever our feckless leadership is building to use against US, I'm beginning to see where this thing is heading for 2015.
I think we're looking at a real show stopper in the making, my FRiends, and I think I'm going to start watching those prepper shows.
"Prepare" seems like a very good idea all of a sudden.
Senator wicker of Mississippi is probably shaking his pom poms for harry reid. He is going to go along with anything that the dims want. He is just like trent lott.
The same toxic DC ooze that is turning once conservative Republicans, i.e., Ryan, Rubio, into flaming liberals is now leeching into Dingy Harry’s brain — making him crazier than ever.
Reid sets up Senate showdown, calls for votes on seven Obama nominees
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Posted on 07/11/2013 2:09:49 PM PDT by jazusamo
"... cautioned Mormons against joining or supporting right-wing groups who mistakenly apply prophecies about the last days to promote efforts to form paramilitary or other organizations."
It might have been 6 million white voters stayed home, mostly working class whites.
No doubt... we had many here on FR that refused to vote. republicans had better quit listening to satan whispering through rove and preibus and start paying attention to the real world.