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To: Jeff Head
The unvarnished truth is that Travon Martin got exactly what he deserved. He committed a sneak, unprovoked, atrocious assault which was interdicted only by the use of deadly force. If he had not been shot he might well have killed George Zimmerman. One more blow to the head, one more bash of the head against concrete, one more attempted suffocation might well have been the murder of George Zimmerman. If Travon Martin had succeeded in getting possession of Zimmerman's gun, it is very likely he would have used it because he had already threatened Zimmerman's life before he commenced to beat Zimmerman within an inch of its life.

There is no plausible evidence contrary to these conclusions.


5 posted on 07/14/2013 9:47:50 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

“If Travon Martin had succeeded in getting possession of Zimmerman’s gun, it is very likely he would have used it because he had already threatened Zimmerman’s life before he commenced to beat Zimmerman within an inch of its life.”

This is key to the whole episode. No one addresses the matter of what would have happened if Trayvon had succeeded in getting his hands on the gun! Just how long do you think it would have taken Trayvon to take the gun from Zimmerman’s hand if Zimmerman had not fired it?


6 posted on 07/14/2013 9:54:48 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: nathanbedford
Zimmerman had a legitimate reason to be curious about Martin. Martin took offense to the scrutiny because Martin was a racist punk. His offense took the form it usually does with racist punks: he attacked the so-called offender. In the process, the "offender" shot him.

If -- and it's a big "if" -- Zimmerman was a racist, it did not take the form of him attacking Martin. Martin's racism was blatant, and it -- along with an inflated sense of his own status -- got him killed.

10 posted on 07/14/2013 10:09:11 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: nathanbedford
Agreed 100%. As Zimmerman said, towards the end, it was THE gun, not his gun. Whoever controlled it was going to live, the other was going to die.

Zimmerman did exactly what he had to do to live. My only problem is that I know I would have shot the thug a lot sooner.

Another thing is this. As it turns out, Obama was right. Treyvon Martin is the son he would have had. Angry, raised to hate America and particularly "crackers," whom he felt owed him something and from whom he was going to take what he wanted to make them pay. Criminally minded....just like Obama.

11 posted on 07/14/2013 10:10:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: nathanbedford; Jeff Head

I don’t believe at all, that Trayvon Martin *deserved it.*

If anything, he was badly, grossly, terribly *MIS-LED* by the *pompous* race hustlers strewn across the leftist, socialist, “Democrat Party” machinery -— all of whom agitate for Trayvon Martin and so many young black men, to commit crimes and increase levels of fear, so that the same *pimps* can scream in the public eye, that “something should be done about it!”

When the people who need to do something, are the parents and adults in every community that is threatened by BOTH the *pimps* and the *pimps’ -raised hoods.* The parents and adults all need to know, that they have the right and the authority as sovereign American citizens, to stand up *AGAINST* the fear-mongering that is the constant product of the *pimps.*

The adults *need to watch their neighborhoods* AND alert the police and politicians, BUT if the police and politicians fail to respond, then the adults must make clear to the *pimps* and the *hoods* that the adults have the authority to detain and drag to city hall, the *pimps* and *hoods* who are the real terrorists.

The real terrorists - the people who keep especially inner-city mothers and fathers living in fear.

The real terrorists - they tell your kids that there is no hope, and that, the system is against you, young child; AND WORSE: the only way for you to find love and be accepted, is within THE HOOD.

Every decent adult and parent *KNOWS* who the real terrorists are, and what the real terrorists are doing, and what the real terrorists continue to try to do.

There *are* *MANY* good, decent black American parents ... who live in fear, because every which way they turn to for help, they find: THE PIMPS and the leftist [now-] Palace Media [formerly ‘liberal media’] belly-aching about alleged injustice.

When these good people need to find, George Zimmerman, a man who, despite his own fears, chose to stand up and watch over his neighbors. Like you, he took an enormous risk to work for the safety of his neighbors.

You might have been less cautious. You might have been more cautious. A day might come, when you *are* George Zimmerman.

There are the risks.

If you avoid these risks, you get the *pimps’* terror that is destroying Chicago and has destroyed Detroit.

Over all, is the incorrect notion that the leftists’ for police state security keep purveying upon the American public, that “you cannot take the law into your own hands.”

That is ridiculous, because in the U.S.A., the law *is* in your hands, though you *have a duty* to lawfully act with such authority that we each have as American citizens.

George Zimmerman was a lot more cautious than a police officer would have been, as he should be; you want at all times *that you can manage it, in your view,* to gather information and pass it along to the police.

Yet the day may come, when events do not play as you may have imagined them. You may think, you are prepared, and you can get away or back away from a situation, but then suddenly, you find that you cannot - there is no retreat.

In a nutshell, there is the problem for the people who live in fear -— they are essentially victims of the *pimps* who constantly purvey that the direction of retreat, is TOWARD THE *PIMPS!*

*THAT IS ‘THE SYSTEM’!* If there ever was a system that needs to be broken up.

What George Zimmerman did, was to defy ‘THE SYSTEM’ of *PIMPS.*

What Trayvon Martin did, was to be used by ‘THE SYSTEM’ of *PIMPS* so that, they can do everything that we have witnessed: their lust for power that they gain by threatening individual, family, home, neighborhood, and public safety.

The *pimps* CANNOT make you safe.

Their many “social plans” CANNOT make you safe.

Their many appearances in the Palace Media CANNOT make you safe.

Their destruction of the public education system HAS NOT made you safe.

Their destruction of Detroit and Chicago HAS NOT made you safe.

Within their spheres of control in the cities where crime is so great a problem, even massive police presence HAS NOT made you safe!

ONLY YOU, as responsible and decent adult, have the power to make your home and neighborhood safe.

THAT is the LAST THING that the *PIMPS* wanted Trayvon Martin to ever hear -— that he should have been an ally of George Zimmermans everywhere.

As you have been, and so many citizens have been, without which support, the police could not possibly do their job, which IS OUR JOB TOO, to defend and protect.

Unlike other countrys, in the U.S.A., the police officer IS ONE OF US, whom we pay to specialize in doing the law enforcement work that we would otherwise have to ... but it is simply more economical for us, as we must raise food and provide clothing and shelter, to employ a few of our neighbors as police officers.

In the U.S.A., the police dept. is *NOT* a branch of government. Instead, the police dept. is an office within the common law. A police “officer” is a person whom we authorize to act as a member of that office.

The police officer DOES WHAT YOU WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE TO DO.

When the police officer is around, your duties do not end, your authority does not end, you responsibilities as an adult do not end; indeed, in some communities, there are no police officers with badges at all ... there is simply you and your responsible neighbors.

ALL OF WHICH, the *pimps* NEVER want people to hear about, know about, and accept such adult-hood.

This is *all* as basic and tied into the foundations of the common law, going back to the common laws of tribes everywhere! Does not matter what the race or name of the tribes are/were.

Nobody deserves to be on the receiving end of the *pimps’* hatred of good, hatred of life, hatred of truth.


18 posted on 07/14/2013 10:31:45 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: nathanbedford
The unvarnished truth is that Travon Martin got exactly what he deserved. He committed a sneak, unprovoked, atrocious assault which was interdicted only by the use of deadly force. If he had not been shot he might well have killed George Zimmerman. One more blow to the head, one more bash of the head against concrete, one more attempted suffocation might well have been the murder of George Zimmerman. If Travon Martin had succeeded in getting possession of Zimmerman's gun, it is very likely he would have used it because he had already threatened Zimmerman's life before he commenced to beat Zimmerman within an inch of its life. There is no plausible evidence contrary to these conclusions.

That's pretty much how I saw it. Trayvon Martin left his father's property to pursue George Zimmerman. He became the Hunter. Got what he deserved.

62 posted on 07/14/2013 1:48:22 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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