Posted on 07/14/2013 12:03:46 PM PDT by Kaslin
Thanks for posting.
The lesson of history is that Muslims will be democratic and non-totalitarian only to the extent that they disregard their religion. The USA had better discard the prevailing notion that every belief system that calls itself a religion is entitled to Constitutional protection.
A very interesting article writen by an Egyptian on what actually may have been happening in Egypt.
No rational person, least of all the Western oriented secularists, would want a government run by the Brotherhood or political Islamists. Hence the coup has been widely applauded in the West. However it is a strategic political error to ignore the fact that political Islam holds a major influence over most of the Egyptian population. Most of Egypt’s population is rural, poorly educated, impoverished and firmly Islamic. The Western oriented secularists are usually urban and the people that interact with Western media, businessmen and diplomats. They of course are friendly and appealing but form a minority of the population. What’s more the rural majority is not politically unorganized and can be mobilized for whatever the Brotherhood leadership deems necessary including civil disobedience and even violence. Like it or not there will be no peace and progress in Egypt until a working consensus is reached between these two opposing groups. This coup makes that consensus which was always a remote possibility at best even more unlikely. Yet without it, Egypt already poor will become destitute. Many of those secularists will eventually leave along with many of the impoverished and uneducated. What’s more America will ultimately be blamed for whatever happens in Egypt. The US is the paymaster of the Egyptian military and thereby cannot escape responsibility. IMHO deposing Mursi, just as he had been politically checked by the massive demonstrations, was a huge strategic blunder. Now he is a martyr and icon. The Brotherhood obviously will not retire gently. Its hard to be optimistic about Egypt’s and the entire regions future.
I’m very glad I saw this; thanks for posting it.
Ever since September 11th, American politicians on both sides of the aisle have developed this narrative that says: “we should fight Islam with Islam.”
Like it or not there will be no peace and progress in Egypt until a working consensus is reached between these two opposing groups.
With all due respect - there can be NO consensus with Islamists. Theirs is an all or nothing world-view that not only lacks respect for the belief of others - it preaches hatred towards all who believe differently.
This is a major flaw in your thinking. We cannot “co-exist” with radical Islam. Period. Such a state requires mutual respect from both sides. We can exists with Muslim nations that are not radicalized or bent on destruction of others. This requires a leader and government that won’t tolerate radical behavior. We had an ally like that once in Egypt and this administration stabbed him in the back much like a former President from Georgia stabbed another ally in the back. Both of them were flawed men without a doubt, but they represented the best hope for peace. We will likely pay heavy consequences for both decisions as will/have millions of people.
Nearly every married woman in Egypt has suffered mutilation. One third of all marriages are between cousins. The actual unemployment level is 40 percent.
The vast majority of Egyptians are illiterate. And, the country can’t feed itself because of the government socialistic approach to managing land, water and property rights.
They need to elect an Israeli government. They made the desert bloom.
I don’t disagree, Egypt is a mess. However, the one man who struck the best possible balance for our strategic goals and interests as well as the rights of all Egyptians to exists was the man we stabbed in the back.
There can be little doubt that the former regime would/did do more to improve the situation than the Muslim Brotherhood. We betray our long-term ally and now protect a man who can accurately be described as a radical Islamist?
If you assume that Obama’s goal is to help establish a regional Caliphate in the Middle East that is a major global power equal to the USA or China, Morsi was a good pick, and we can expect more shenanigans by this administration seeking to give the Muslim Brotherhood another shot at power in Egypt. The only thing Obama didn’t expect was that the Egyptian population had the guts to throw the bums out.
I thought that was well known. Code Pink, the media, and other American fascists were there coaching them. One American reporter was raped.
Like it or not there will be no peace and progress in Egypt until a working consensus is reached between these two opposing groups.
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Let me guess: You have been drinking the State Department’s “For-the-love-of-Jihad” Kool-Aid?
Nearly every married woman in Egypt has suffered mutilation. One third of all marriages are between cousins. The actual unemployment level is 40 percent.
The vast majority of Egyptians are illiterate. And, the country can’t feed itself because of the government socialistic approach to managing land, water and property rights.
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Great post. However, I would beg to differ with your statement, “Nearly every married woman in Egypt has suffered mutilation.”
In fact, would it not be more accurate to say that the vast majority of Muslim females in Egypt above the age of six have suffered mutilation?
That means they do not consider themselves to be mutilated. Mutilation is not a proper description of the procedure
If you assume that Obama’s goal is to help establish a regional Caliphate in the Middle East that is a major global power equal to the USA or China, Morsi was a good pick, and we can expect more shenanigans by this administration seeking to give the Muslim Brotherhood another shot at power in Egypt. The only thing Obama didn’t expect was that the Egyptian population had the guts to throw the bums out.
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Excellent post, . . . And, tragically true.
I think it’s very GOOD news. In spite of our treasonous usurper the Egyptian people are rejecting the Sharia. Same with Turkey.BECAUSE Zero was on their side the BAD guys can’t use the US as an excuse for their actions.(Not successfully anyways). Perhaps the people living under Islam will finally realize Islam itself is the problem.
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