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So the modern American Bar is filled with idiots?
1 posted on 07/15/2013 5:41:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s no self defense in Iowa?


2 posted on 07/15/2013 5:42:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This was a self defense issue...Don't let the meatheads change the subject


6 posted on 07/15/2013 5:54:06 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stand Your Ground should not even be mentioned in the same sentence with George Zimmerman.


7 posted on 07/15/2013 6:00:06 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sara Riley:

Liberal uninformed liar.

Stand your ground as mentioned above had nothing to do with the Zimmerman case.

But to her stupid remarks: Stand your ground does not allow you to whack anyone just because they hit you. First, you must have a solid reason for defending yourself. All stand your ground laws do, in almost all jurisdictions, is clarify where self defence is legal. In most cases which I have read, it only codifies what has been in practice. One has always been able to defend oneself in the home, car, office, etc., but the stand your ground law makes it clear that some eager beaver DA will not rake you over like those that abused Zimmerman.

Zimmerman’s lawyers were smart. They did not choose to muddy the water with stand your ground when they had such a solid case based on the facts of self defence.

Except for eliminating the need to run out the back door of your own home, stand your ground really changes nothing other than making more difficult for a Nyfong type DA.


9 posted on 07/15/2013 6:08:28 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A responsible editor would never allow this to be printed in his or her newspaper. It is based on a false premise—there was no “stand your ground” law involved. Then it drifts off into nonsensical “what if”.


10 posted on 07/15/2013 6:17:10 PM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

““If somebody hits you, and you’re fearful of your life, you could kill them,” she explained. “

BZZZZTTTT, wrong answer.


11 posted on 07/15/2013 6:19:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

again the case isn’t about syg, it’s about self defense..

would be nice if msm would at least try to get one fact straight.


12 posted on 07/15/2013 6:20:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obviously it is not!/SARCASM

After all, with a codified SYG law on the books of those states that have it, simple self-defense is also presumed to be a “right”, and arresting any citizen who lethally defended themselves from an attack is no longer the automatic reaction of LEOs.

It cuts out multiple millions of billable legal hours for lawyers, if prosecuters must provide reasonable evidence against the accused, before they destroy the lives of we citizens.

While SYG was not the legal issue in the Zimmerman/Martin case, simple self defense was.

And the travesty of justice was that Zimmerman was charged with murder for defending himself, based solely on media manipulations, political games and special interest group pressures.

Any one of us can be the next case.

13 posted on 07/15/2013 7:05:08 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only good thing to come out of Iowa is I-80 West-—heading into Nebraska!! This from a man who has lived in Iowa for 30 years, albeit just across the river from Omaha. Western Iowa is red, but we are out-numbered by the leftist s__t-for-brains of des moans and eastern half of state. Tom Effing Harkin? One of the worst of the worst. He could be caught starring in pedophile snuff films and not have to campaign much to be reelected. Huskers are proud of their farm and ranching roots, but far too many iowegians would piss their panties if some pinko from either coast called them hicks. Western third of iowa should secede and become part of Nebrska along with Northern Colorado. Remember the asshat des moans register writer that wanted to see US gun owners slaughtered? Real classy commie rag the register. Awesome group Iowa Gun Owners is fighting for castle doctrine and SYG, but effing dm and eastern iowa shoot it down every year. We can’t have any Class 3 weapons here either. Eff these morons!


15 posted on 07/15/2013 8:02:56 PM PDT by karbine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120222/NEWS01/302220033/Update-Man-acquitted-shooting-happy-free-now-homeless

interesting article about iowa laws, self-defense, and how the system ‘works’.


17 posted on 07/15/2013 9:04:15 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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