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How high did it go? Republicans to step up pressure on IRS at scandal hearing {Live Thread}
Fox News ^ | July 18, 2013

Posted on 07/18/2013 6:40:25 AM PDT by don-o

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To: Da Coyote

-——We all know that the Republicans will bend over and take their medicine.——

You are misinformed

Issa indicated yesterday he is goingto get the IRS and is not letting up at all


701 posted on 07/18/2013 2:45:19 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bert; All

Thank you so much for this thread.

I read every bit of it and it was very insightful.

I can only hope and pray that Issa keeps it up.


702 posted on 07/18/2013 3:13:01 PM PDT by Lakeside Granny
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To: Sequoyah101

“The pubbies are paper tigers. Just another show trial.”

Anyone who goes to the swamp of DC becomes compromised. Most go for money, power, or fame. If they take the money, they are subject to blackmail. If they are all about power, to be in the power structure they have to toe the line and do the bidding of those who control the levers of power. If they want fame (i.e. McCain and Graham) the attention of the mainstream press requires backstabbing of conservatives and acquiescence to the progressive cause.

There may be a few genuinely principled individuals who go to Washington. If they can’t be bought with money or promises of power, the establishment will expose them to sexual temptations. Once they succumb they can be blackmailed. If they don’t fall to temptation, and make trouble, the establishment will make sure their campaign money dries up or their district lines are redrawn to force them out or make sure they lose. Ask Alan West and Michelle Bachmann.

Republicans are slaves doing the bidding of their globalist masters. What you hear is the noise of token opposition that will fade away.


703 posted on 07/18/2013 3:29:15 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Lakeside Granny

Issa seemed like a whipped puppy dog to me. I listened and didn’t get anything to earth shattering or new from it.


704 posted on 07/18/2013 3:30:03 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: Toespi
lets argue over semantics, search terms, words, little boy in the cookie jar, and all to protect a POS.

I'm surprised that the Tar Baby didn't make an appearance. Perhaps they were being niggardly.

705 posted on 07/18/2013 3:31:24 PM PDT by Octar
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To: thouworm

I’m sure a number of people have a copy of the email. I suspect that after Mr. George’s testimony, at least one of them is going to be confident enough to trust Mr. George enough to give it to him.


706 posted on 07/18/2013 3:44:21 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Girlene
Now Cummings is taking George to task at complaining how the IG’s office is being treated/accused.

Truth be told, Elijah is a mental midget and his inferior intellect is so on display every time he opens his pie hole.

707 posted on 07/18/2013 3:54:15 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
Greta Van Susteren ‏@gretawire 31m TONIGHT – on OTR at 10pm – Congressman Trey Gowdy joins us to discuss the latest with the IRS! http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/07/18/tonight-on-otr-at-10pm-congressman-trey-gowdy-joins-us-to-discuss-the-latest-with-the-irs-post-questions-you-have-for-rep-gowdy-about-the-irs-i-make-ask-them/ …
708 posted on 07/18/2013 4:15:21 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Soul of the South

Sadly, I believe what you have written is all true. The whole of your premise smacks of Jimmy Stewart in “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” If you don’t play you will be crushed. It is so much like other places that run on money and power. Like most corporate structures.


709 posted on 07/18/2013 4:18:26 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: don-o

Hi don-o...I’m just getting home...may I ask you for a summary of what happened today? TIA


710 posted on 07/18/2013 5:12:50 PM PDT by viaveritasvita ("The One who reigns forever, He is a Friend of mine, the G-d of angel armies is always by my side.")
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To: viaveritasvita

You may ask....


711 posted on 07/18/2013 5:19:03 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: viaveritasvita

Could not resist.

The Cincinnati Rogue Agents meme was demolished and connection is made to Washington.

Democrats spent their time trying to claim that liberal groups were targeted; or if they weren’t, they should have been - or something.

They spent some time besmirching the character and integrity of the IG - Mr George.

Elijah Cummings farted loudly several times and Elanor Holmes Norton gave him hell for it. (I just made that last one up.)


712 posted on 07/18/2013 5:24:45 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Sequoyah101

“It is so much like other places that run on money and power.”

I’m afraid there is too much money in a government the size of ours. The institution of the income tax by amending the Constitution and the abdication of sound money through the establishment of the Federal Reserve were huge mistakes that allowed the Federal government and the Wall Street banks to control the economy.

He who owns the gold makes the rules.


713 posted on 07/18/2013 5:49:57 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: don-o

LOL ;o)

Who really needed a congressional hearing to know that the rogue agents in Cin was pure BS?

I read the article posted here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3044717/posts

but was wondering if there were any documents/evidence brought forth to prove the WH connection...and also what happens now? More flippin’ hearings?


714 posted on 07/18/2013 6:08:56 PM PDT by viaveritasvita ("The One who reigns forever, He is a Friend of mine, the G-d of angel armies is always by my side.")
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To: don-o

When Boris Yeltsin sent troops into the Russian Dumas and took out legislators to be shot, Clinton said he would do the same thing under similar circumstances. I believe it. And anyone with a problem with that would be called a “partisan” by the MSM.


715 posted on 07/18/2013 6:53:40 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Gowdy on Greta


716 posted on 07/18/2013 7:01:15 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

But you won’t ready this in the NY Slimes or the Washington Compost. Nor on the OMG networks.


717 posted on 07/18/2013 7:15:08 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: bert
Issa indicated yesterday he is goingto get the IRS and is not letting up at all

Issa better watch his back under Boner (Dlite-OH) or he will lose his House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairmanship. Once he goes too far, Obama will place a call to his golfing buddy and it will be lights out for Issa.
718 posted on 07/18/2013 8:13:08 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: don-o

4:39 Minutes
Trey Gowdy on Greta
IRS chief counsel’s office just the tip of scandal iceberg?

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2553837721001/irs-chief-counsels-office-just-the-tip-of-scandal-iceberg/?playlist_id=86925

Rep. Trey Gowdy sounds off on whether real progress in being made in probe of agency’s screening of Tea Party applications or whether it will get bogged down in partisan gridlock


719 posted on 07/18/2013 8:32:29 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: ncfool

2:42 Minutes
IRS Scandal Hearing. FULL EXPLOSIVE HEARING 7/18/2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaauOXbA32o


720 posted on 07/18/2013 8:37:34 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: don-o

issa waste of time.

we need a special prosecutor. or a special watergate style house committee with it’s own counsel.


721 posted on 07/18/2013 11:43:37 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Da Coyote
Why do we waste our time reading this?

We all know that the Republicans will bend over and take their medicine.

They will do nothing except stand up and beat their chests fora couple of seconds, then assume the position.

It’s happened before.

It will happen again.

Release the Barrett Report!!!

The Barrett Report was the result of a special prosecutor investigation of IRS abuses during the Clinton administration. Democrats AND Republicans succeeded in having it sealed from public scrutiny. ANY member of Congress can effectively release it by simply having it read into the Congressional Record. To date no Democrat (no surprise) nor ANY Republican has stepped forward to have it read into the record. Why?

By now, it is almost forgotten, even by most Freepers.

Hey, Issa, release the Barrett Report.

722 posted on 07/19/2013 12:15:12 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: bert
Ms. Hofacre of the Cincinnati office testified that when she was given tea-party applications, she had to kick them upstairs. When she was given non-tea-party applications, they were sent on for normal treatment. Was she told to send liberal or progressive groups for special scrutiny? No, she did not scrutinize the applications of liberal or progressive groups. "I would send those to general inventory." Who got extra scrutiny? "They were all tea-party and patriot cases." She became "very frustrated" by the "micromanagement" from Washington. "It was like working in lost luggage." She applied to be transferred.

For his part, Mr. Hull backed up what he'd told House investigators. He described what was, essentially, a big, lengthy runaround in the Washington office in which no one was clear as to their reasons but everything was delayed. The multitiered scrutiny of the targeted groups was, he said, "unusual."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324448104578614220949743916.html?mod=djemEditorialPage_h

it certainly seems like the evidence to prosecute is there

723 posted on 07/19/2013 6:01:39 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Whenifhow; don-o; penelopesire; SE Mom; Girlene; ncfool; Cap Huff; Clint N. Suhks; Toespi; ...
Whenifhow: Thanks for posting all of the YouTube links.

ALL: Good summation of hearing by Peggy Noonan. [Was she the only journalist who watched the hearings?].

Noonan: A Bombshell in the IRS Scandal

Still, what landed was a bombshell. And Democrats know it. Which is why they are so desperate to make the investigation go away. They know, as Republicans do, that the chief counsel of the IRS is one of only two Obama political appointees in the entire agency....

Mr. Hull told House investigators that at some point in the winter of 2010-11, Ms. Lerner's senior adviser, whose name is withheld in the publicly released partial interview transcript, told him the applications would require further review:

Q: "Did [the senior adviser to Ms. Lerner] indicate to you whether she agreed with your recommendations?"

A: "She did not say whether she agreed or not. She said it should go to chief counsel."

Q: "The IRS chief counsel?"

A: "The IRS chief counsel."

724 posted on 07/19/2013 7:58:33 AM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: thouworm

Thanks for the ping! Noonan’s article seems to be the only article floating around on the Internet this morning about the IRS lawlessness! Time for the new media to get back to IRS and Benghazi and stop playing into Obama’s hands with the Zimmerman crap IMHO.


725 posted on 07/19/2013 8:10:17 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: viaveritasvita
ho really needed a congressional hearing to know that the rogue agents in Cin was pure BS?


726 posted on 07/19/2013 8:17:50 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: thouworm

Thank you for that....I would have missed it. Good summation by Peggy. Is Wilkin’s expected to testify?


727 posted on 07/19/2013 8:18:27 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: thouworm

Thanks for the ping!
I also thought the line of questioning by Meehan was very interesting.

2 hours :32 minutes – Meehan to 2 hours :38 minutes
IRS Scandal Hearing. FULL EXPLOSIVE HEARING 7/18/2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaauOXbA32o

Mr Meehan was asking questions related to the process. When did they start sending applications to DC and Chief Counsel and who designed the questions.


728 posted on 07/19/2013 8:45:17 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: don-o
Jarrett bump.

5.56mm

729 posted on 07/19/2013 8:47:04 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Cheerio

LOL...yep, Kabuki Theatre! G-d help us!!


730 posted on 07/19/2013 9:50:53 AM PDT by viaveritasvita ("The One who reigns forever, He is a Friend of mine, the G-d of angel armies is always by my side.")
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To: Octar

Really, you needed to write those words? For the love of pete.


731 posted on 07/19/2013 6:51:03 PM PDT by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: thouworm

Trey Gowdy: Claiming the White House wasn’t involved in IRS scandal is BALDERDASH

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3045379/posts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_3ncIv3-xc


732 posted on 07/20/2013 12:42:26 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Da Coyote
>"We all know that the Republicans will bend over and take their medicine."

Don't rock the boat! They've got yacht lot fees just like JOhn KErry. He's a hero, a VC hero. He shot more videos than Viet Com.

733 posted on 07/21/2013 3:04:06 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Sequoyah101

The only real weapon the House has is impeachment, and that is useless unless they go after a political appointee.


734 posted on 07/21/2013 9:26:50 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS

Only the Senate can impeach.


735 posted on 07/21/2013 9:59:43 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: don-o
"Begins at 11:00 am. CSPAN will stream on line. Will be interesting to see how much coverage other sources provide"

You'll know where to find me on Thursday!

What will Lerner do? Its been quite the cliff hanger!

How about a little justice for the Tea Party, etc.....

736 posted on 07/22/2013 8:30:40 AM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan!)
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To: Sequoyah101

The House impeaches. Then the Senate holds a trial. If two thirds of the Senators vote to convict, then the person can be removed from office.


737 posted on 07/22/2013 11:28:44 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS

Yes, correct, let me know how the House referring articles of impeachment to the Spinate goes.

It would serve no purpose but to stir up the obastard base even further. That’s racist you know?


738 posted on 07/22/2013 12:24:58 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: don-o

It went to the oval office.


739 posted on 07/22/2013 12:28:12 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: Sequoyah101

I am talking about impeaching the lower-lying fruit, I meant his servants, such as the counsel for the IRS.


740 posted on 07/22/2013 12:57:53 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS

And you think that will be successful? I don’t. The Spinate will never allow anything to be put on the agenda that will embarrass the occupant of the white hut.

You don’t have to agree with me but this is a regime, a conspiracy between the white hut, the spinate, the judicial, the unions, bureaucrats and many of the rhinos all against traditional United States values and the Constitution. It is a silent but very active coup. They have the power. It is like having elected Stalin to the white hut and he is using his interpretation of the law just the way he wants to and there is nobody to stop him.


741 posted on 07/22/2013 1:55:53 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101

I think it might be a tool. The power is in desuetude, but maybe it can be revived as a check and balance on the executive power. I mean, right now, the executive is ignoring Congress.Even if the Republicans take the senate back, this will continue to be the case. It is logical consequence of the investigative power of a select committee, going beyond the mere raising of the issue and regain some control over what has be3come an irresponsible executive. The bad thing is that it will require a lot of DW-40 to make the tool work again and a chairman willing and able about to do more than jaw-jaw.


742 posted on 07/22/2013 8:23:32 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS

Romney was right, only 47% really care about fighting the 53% who have figured out they can vote themselves a raise from the treasury of the other 47%.

I keep looking for some kind of encouragement that things might be better in my remaining lifetime. I think, or want to think, I see some of the kids beginning to figure out they have a very very bleak future on the path the one they foolishly voted for is taking them on.

I hope he continues to push the race card. I don’t see how 85% of the population can willingly support all the wants, wishes and whims of the other less than 15% who have been given everything imaginable and still can’t pull themselves out of their own slop. It is a mystery to me why we, supposedly smart people, have allowed such a small faction of the population to keep all of us so torn up all the time.

Desuetude, I had to look that one up. Not much need for that word in my discussions. If you mean that congress is not using the power it has you are correct. They are afraid to cut off the money. They are afraid of what others may say and think. They are afraid of the race card and the propaganda machine. They have lost their nerve and don’t understand or think that we have reached the point where what anyone thinks or says or does in response to them doing the right thing won’t matter because they will lose anyway.

A DW-40 is an old Cat scraper tractor. That may be just what is needed to run over the bastards and have reason to replace them and scare the life out of the survivors.

In the final assessment though I think it is too late. We have probably lost.


743 posted on 07/22/2013 9:30:51 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101

We are slowing turning the corner as more and more people begin to see that the race card is a joker in the deck. Is there a single black politician who has not abused his office and left his constituents worse off than he found them? The same might have been said, of course, of the Irish politicians of the 19th and 20th Centuries, whose experience with the English left them totally cynical about the rule of law.


744 posted on 07/22/2013 9:45:21 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: don-o

Wake me up when they offer a bill to repeal the 16th, shrink to their Constitutional size (A1S8) and we’ll go from there.

I’ll even open one eye if they frog march ANYONE to the clink. You know, the place where We would already be if we lied under oath, took the 5th after making a statement, etc.


745 posted on 07/23/2013 9:21:08 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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