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To: WilliamIII

Normally I would agree with VP Cheney on more things than I’d disagree. But here... I think Cheney should talk to Jim Sensenbrenner, who, after all, was largely responsible for the writing of the original Patriot Act, and who has repeatedly said the NSA surveillance has gotten way out of hand / beyond what was ever intended.

Relevant article here:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/sensenbrenner-nsa-surveillance-congress/2013/07/18/id/515794


2 posted on 07/19/2013 11:24:23 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Paul R.

Dick Cheney is wrong and Rand Paul is right.

Paul believes in the Constitution’s provision that a warrant be issued specifically detailing the wwwwwh’s of a search.

I see the Constitution as our guiding document, and if Cheney or anyone wants it changed, then they are free to pursue an amendment. The “Fisa” court is an attempt to amend the constitution by legislative vote IF it’s given ANY authority to short-circuit that constitutional requirement.

We don’t have secret courts issuing secret, rushed warrants in the Constitution. Anything in the Bill of Rights should be held to a HIGHER standard and not to a lower one.

Some say this makes us vulnerable to terrorists. I disagree. If they’ve only found a terrorist plan by painstaking research or field work, then the extra few days to do this properly is no impediment.

If they have discovered an act to be carried out against the US, then the President is the Commander in Chief, and he has the authority to make immediate strikes to protect our security.


24 posted on 07/20/2013 4:40:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Paul R.

I agree with you. The original gave citizens some protections and the FISA has bastardized the intent, but the original was the basis for the recent atrocities against the People.


31 posted on 07/20/2013 5:49:43 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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