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To: doc1019

I used to like Cheney a lot, but he’s wrong here, and it has me re-evaluating my whole take on him.

I’d rather have a foreign terrorist nuke go off here than a totalitarian police/surveillance state that thinks I’m a terrorist.

I’d rather not have either, of course, but that doesn’t seem to be a current choice on the menu, unfortunately.


35 posted on 07/20/2013 1:20:54 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux

You would rather have a nuke go off here than have the patriot act? Really?

Don’t you know the nuke would likely lead to much worse surveillance programs and likely martial law?


103 posted on 07/20/2013 11:33:05 AM PDT by what's up
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To: dagogo redux
I’d rather have a foreign terrorist nuke go off here than a totalitarian police/surveillance state that thinks I’m a terrorist.

Absolutely.

Because if we destroy our open society and sacrifice our Freedom in exchange for a little temporary safety, all in the name of fighting Terror, then the Terrorists have already won!

Remember when a few of our perceptive statesmen were saying that after 9/11? It seems as if that principle has been totally cast aside at this point. Suddenly, totalitarianism seems completely reasonable to our leaders.

Now, it's as if our leaders are saying "As long as we can claim to keep the People relatively safe from Terror, then it's OK to have a totalitarian Police State. The First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments are outdated vestiges of a simpler time."

It shall not stand.

161 posted on 07/21/2013 6:37:51 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: dagogo redux

http://gizmodo.com/new-google-earth-hack-lets-you-nuke-any-city-in-devasta-866361443

I think it’s overloaded and down now, but you can set them off where you’d like on that and see from the ground what it would look like. Even a small 10kt would be unbelievable, the country would be virtually destroyed.

I’d rather have more security but it needs to be very targeted. Throw all the illegals out and seal the borders. Throw all islamics out, citizens or not. Forever.

Then we could relax the security quite a bit.


188 posted on 07/22/2013 2:59:04 PM PDT by Monty22002
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