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Not Everything Is Due To Bias, Including All-Male Physics Departments
Science 2.0 ^ | July 19th 2013 | News Staff

Posted on 07/21/2013 2:39:23 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 07/21/2013 2:39:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

You have to be smarter than a “Math is hard.” Barbie doll to get a degree in Physics.


2 posted on 07/21/2013 2:42:28 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: neverdem

There is no emotion or opinions in Physics, therefore women don’t like Physics.

QED


3 posted on 07/21/2013 2:42:59 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: neverdem

Geez Louise... What a waste of time and energy this subject matter is. I was always good at math and sciences, but when it came to physics, I struggled to get A’s, and mostly got B’s. The thing is, I was fine in all other science matters except when it came to electricity. For some reason I always struggled with watts, ohms, and amps. When I think back about it, it is nearly fifty years since I took physics, and I still recall my aversion to that part of the subject.

So, if men are better than women at physics, so what? I appreciate anyone who does well in physics.

To this day, I have enormous respect for electricians!


4 posted on 07/21/2013 2:49:39 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: neverdem

Talk about work bias and injustice shall we?

* Equal pay? Why do women get to do less work for same pay? Wimbledon? 5 sets vs 3. Why do women get to work less? Hmm?

* Deaths on the job, no one ever talks about that do they...let’s look at deaths per capita. You know which sex dies on the job like 100 fold more often.


5 posted on 07/21/2013 2:54:15 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out whom you are not allowed to criticize.” ~ Voltaire)
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To: neverdem
Bias would be if women were not hired to replace men who died or retired.

No, bias is when you hire someone because of their gender or race over their knowledge/ability, or to meet a quota.

6 posted on 07/21/2013 2:56:25 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: neverdem

The missing gals in physics usually test the theory that a tantrum can repeal the law of gravity.


7 posted on 07/21/2013 2:57:19 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: neverdem

Maybe if they could get some of the guys to self identify as female it would help the imbalance. If it’s good enough for grade school restrooms, it’s good enough for this. They could self identify as a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.


8 posted on 07/21/2013 3:00:46 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: neverdem

I teach probability and statistics as an adjunct in the Psychology Department at a local junior college.

All of the full-time Department employees are female.

None of them teach probability and statistics.

Never really thought about it too much before.

Now I’m going to have to ask someone about that.


9 posted on 07/21/2013 3:26:38 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: neverdem

I’ve worked with 4 women physicists, all of whom were pretty sharp. This is in the defense industry. None were interested in academia mostly due to the politics involved, and that they did more interesting work at better pay in the private sector.


10 posted on 07/21/2013 3:33:14 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: neverdem

Come for the breast, stay for the brains

11 posted on 07/21/2013 3:46:46 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Gumdrop
I was always good at math and sciences, but when it came to physics, I struggled
I had a similar situation. I was great in math, grammar school through high school and especially algebra and trigonometry - straight A's.
Took Geometry and it might as well have been Greek. To this day I have no clue why.
12 posted on 07/21/2013 3:57:29 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: neverdem

Liberals don’t complain about the fact that 99% of kindergarten teachers and pre-school teachers are women.


13 posted on 07/21/2013 4:13:11 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: neverdem
Simple statistics shows that is not true or there would be claims of discrimination in psychology, where lots of departments have no men. Yet when it comes to gender equality advocates, physics is always mentioned and psychology never is.

What percentage of "gender equality advocates" are liberal feminists, AKA female supremacists? Would claims of discrimination made by the tiny number of genuinely non-sexist gender equality advocates be well publicized? Would those advocates be brave/foolhardy enough to put their careers at risk by complaining about sexist hiring practices in the typical Ruthlessly Politically Correct University?

Labor statistics have backed that up; not only are women hired equally for faculty and tenure jobs in science academia, they are over-hired based on their representation.

There is a phrase to describe that, I just know there is. Let me think. It's back in my memory somewhere... I've got it! It's "discrimination against men." How odd that the phrase does not appear in the article.

14 posted on 07/21/2013 4:24:24 PM PDT by TChad
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To: neverdem

Leslie Winkle would disagree - and let you know in no uncertain terms.....


15 posted on 07/21/2013 4:51:59 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Gumdrop
The thing is, I was fine in all other science matters except when it came to electricity.

You might as well say, "I was fine in math except when it came to numbers."

Recall what Dirac said of his equation describing the relativistic dynamics of the electron:

"This explains all of chemistry and most of physics."

16 posted on 07/21/2013 5:01:52 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: neverdem

It’s true that many women have less of an inclination for the hard sciences. However, women who do, should be treated without discrimination. My SIL has been a professor in aeronautical engineering at a well-known university for some time, and is a tenured faculty member. She hobnobs with astonauts and has brought in many, many grants for her department. But when an Iranian was promoted to Dean, she suddenly started having all sorts of problems there. He simply couldn’t stand a woman being successful in her position, and did all sorts of things to make life difficult for her.


17 posted on 07/21/2013 5:17:33 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: oh8eleven
Took Geometry and it might as well have been Greek.

Funny thing about that ...


18 posted on 07/21/2013 5:24:30 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: neverdem
There are certain college departments where there are few women. Even in my major, geography, there were few female students. And all the tenured professors were males. There was one visiting instructor who was a female. Since her husband was one of the geography professors, she might have gotten a break. But she was very good...in fact in her specialty of ground water, no other male professor could match her.

But I remember talking to one of my professors who related to me that the college was strongly urging his department to hire a female geography professor. This was twenty years ago. But they couldn't find any who were qualified. I think that goes back to the lack of interest in the subject of many females compared to males.

19 posted on 07/21/2013 5:56:23 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: neverdem

Can women do the hard sciences? Yes. But, the hard sciences are difficult. Men typically do better in them because there are major differences in how male and female brains work and process facts. It is biological and not discrimination. Get over it people.


20 posted on 07/21/2013 6:29:15 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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