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Marco Rubio’s Iowa Slide
National Review Online ^ | July 23,2013 | Robert Costa

Posted on 07/23/2013 8:59:38 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Iowa’s talk-radio hosts have been particularly brutal. Steve Deace, an influential Christian conservative, has warned Rubio not to even show up, and has often taunted him during broadcasts. “Zip, zilch, nada — he’s got no support, he would be dead on arrival,” Deace tells me. “He may end up running for president, but he can’t win here.”

Rubio’s latest Iowa headache is Sam Clovis, a charismatic, suspenders-wearing Republican running for U.S. Senate. On the campaign trail, Clovis frequently uses Rubio as a target. Rather than hit President Obama, the usual rhetorical punching bag, he slams Rubio on immigration to score points with conservatives. He does the same on his website, where he “shames” Rubio in a video.

In an interview, Clovis explains his attacks. “What he did is not sitting well with most of us in flyover country,” he says. “He’s the face of this bill, so I bring him up when I talk about the rule of law, and how these Republicans in Washington want us to violate our principles.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; florida; ia2016; iowa; marcorubio; randsconcerntrolls; rubio2016; samclovis; southernavenger; stevedeace

1 posted on 07/23/2013 8:59:38 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Bye Bye Marco


2 posted on 07/23/2013 8:59:57 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Don’t know much about him, but this Clovis guy sounds great.


3 posted on 07/23/2013 9:02:45 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Hojczyk
Conservatives are STUPID and getting MORE STUPID by the minute........we need to go after DEMOCRATS FIRST....FIRST.....FIRST....and then go after squishy Republicans!!!

Liz Cheney SHOULD have stayed in Virginia and gone after a DEMOCRAT SEAT!! HOW STUPID going after Mike Enzi.......WHEN are we going to learn to CIRCLE the WAGONS and not EAT EACH OTHER!!!

We can go after Republicans AFTER we have SO MANY SEATS that losing a few doesn't matter!

4 posted on 07/23/2013 9:03:50 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Hojczyk
I have no problem with republicans being held accountable for their record.

Everything starts there.

Besides, Rubio was too clever by half, thinking he could flummox the yokels with his 'tough new immigration law' BS.

5 posted on 07/23/2013 9:07:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Hojczyk
And...

...you ain't seen nuthin' yet.

Primary elections?

Priceless!

.

6 posted on 07/23/2013 9:07:55 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Hojczyk
Bye Bye Marco

Yep. He's made himself a New York Times Republican, which is to say: a representative of the Democratic [sic] party in all but name.

7 posted on 07/23/2013 9:09:06 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Ann Archy

I disagree... some of the rinoid liberals are worse than dims... mccain and graham as examples. We will never save America until WE CONSERVATIVES control the agenda... and to control the agenda we must destroy the enemies that we have in the republican party. It must be done and it must start now... no mercy and no quarter for turncoat gop elites... not now and not ever again.

LLS


8 posted on 07/23/2013 9:09:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Ann Archy
Better get used to it. It's the way things are going to go. I won't vote for an R unless they are a real conservative.

/johnny

9 posted on 07/23/2013 9:10:14 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Hojczyk
Marco "AMNESTY" Rubio is toast.
He's finished, and will NEVER get another CONSERVATIVE vote again !
10 posted on 07/23/2013 9:10:15 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; onyx; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; zeestephen; RedMDer; Borax Queen
I feel so bad for him........I'm all choked up.

:-)

11 posted on 07/23/2013 9:10:40 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Hojczyk

Beware, and be aware, of what happened with McCain. He was Mr. Amnesty, came in 4th in Iowa, but went on to win the nomination because he was who the establishment wanted.


12 posted on 07/23/2013 9:11:17 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Lakeshark

LOL!


13 posted on 07/23/2013 9:13:45 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Hojczyk

It’s actually a shame, because Senator Rubio talks a good game on other conservative issues. Had he went to the senate and fought tooth and nail against the RINOs and Democrats, he would have proven his conservative roots and earned the trust of his constituents.

By reading his speech transcripts, I knew he was an immigration amnesty fan before he started campaigning for the senate. He was a bit more cautious back then, but he spoke in ways that made his compassion for illegals clear. He went more covert while campaigning—I assume to trick conservatives into supporting him.

That said, had he fought for the other conservative causes and a conservative-controlled senate in the long term, he might have built the political capital to propose some sort of amnesty for the hard cases. There are some of those, like children brought here as infants that are now grown and know nothing about their parent’s country. In other words, I think there’s some room for compassion, but security has to come first and be proven over time.

I think it’s very telling that with Democrats and a bunch of quisling Republicans in the senate, Marco Rubio’s FIRST priority was an immigration amnesty that went well, well beyond the most extreme, hard cases and did not put security first. That only proves my original assessment of Marco Rubio. He’s a shill for illegal aliens.


14 posted on 07/23/2013 9:19:12 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Ann Archy

I could be wrong but I disagree with you intensely.

Why should we elect republicans who vote with democrats.
That only send a message that we will elect them only for the party and not for their stance.

We need to get rid of RINO’s

It would be nice if we could effect that without losing Republican seats , but if we cannot then that is the way the mop flops. Letting RINO’s sit in seats and double cross us isn’t getting us anywhere.

I would just as soon see a Democrat in McCains, Grahams, and Hatch’s seats as to see these double crossing Mother lovers in them. As for Mitch McConnell and Boehner, they are the most piss-poor examples of leaders in the history of the Congress.


15 posted on 07/23/2013 9:19:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: RedMDer
I live in Florida and sent him money...the only one left I trust half way is Sarah... It is a FREEDOM PARTY inside the GOP...and a preprimary so we have one person running against the GOP RINO.. No more Mittens for me..
16 posted on 07/23/2013 9:22:10 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
Steve Deace, an influential Christian conservative

This makes the rest of this article suspect at best. Steve Deace was an influential Christian conservative but gave up the most powerful (secular) pulpit in Iowa (following Rush Limbaugh on WHO radio in Des Moines) and now almost no one listens to him.

And no one (at least in Central Iowa) knows or pays any attention to Sam Clovis.

Think what you want about Rubio, but don't put much weight on what this says about what is happening in Iowa.

17 posted on 07/23/2013 9:30:14 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: Lakeshark; onyx; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; zeestephen; RedMDer; Borax Queen

” I feel so bad for him........I’m all choked up.

:-) “

Yeah, me too....96 tears : )


18 posted on 07/23/2013 9:30:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Ann Archy

I think it’s possible to go after both squishy Republicans and Democrats, but I agree. The #1 priority should be to politically terminate the Democrats. It wouldn’t do us any good to have 40 staunch conservatives in the senate if we aren’t also the majority. The filibuster, for example, is a bulwark only so long as it serves the left’s purposes. They’ll dump it in an instant—the so-called nuclear option—the instant they can’t get their way on an issue that’s important to them. I can’t really blame them. Nothing in the US Constitution says the senate needs 60 votes for cloture.


19 posted on 07/23/2013 9:32:21 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
We'll send him....

96 beers.
96 beers.

Apologies to Question Mark and the Mysterians........

20 posted on 07/23/2013 9:33:43 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Ann Archy

RINOS are Democrats.


21 posted on 07/23/2013 9:35:39 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Lakeshark

” We’ll send him....

96 beers.”

He is doubtless on #92 already.


22 posted on 07/23/2013 9:39:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Ann Archy
we need to go after democrats first...and then go after squishy Republicans.

WRONG. We need to go after the traitors. If they win, they compromise our message. I don't want anyone to even be in the Republican party who thinks invaders should be anything but kicked out of the country and who won't vote to defund Obamacare. We have no way of winning if it's a RINO-globalist vs a Democrat.

23 posted on 07/23/2013 9:40:28 AM PDT by grania
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To: Ann Archy

Sorry Ann, I don’t tolerate liars of any stripe, but most especially those liars who lied directly to me for my vote.

I won’t be voting for Rubio ever again for any reason.


24 posted on 07/23/2013 9:40:54 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Ann Archy

Umm... the entire point of the presidential primary is for Republicans to go after each other.


25 posted on 07/23/2013 9:44:45 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: trad_anglican
And no one (at least in Central Iowa) knows or pays any attention to Sam Clovis.

I just checked out Clovis on YT. He seems like an okay guy, but looks like he could literally explode at any minute. Chris Christie looks like a paragon of health compared to him. Not a good look for getting elected.

26 posted on 07/23/2013 9:47:17 AM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: Hojczyk

I sent him money at one point also. Never again to that turncoat.


27 posted on 07/23/2013 9:51:14 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: grania; Ann Archy

” I don’t want anyone to even be in the Republican party who thinks invaders should be anything but kicked out of the country and who won’t vote to defund Obamacare. We have no way of winning if it’s a RINO-globalist vs a Democrat. “

1) They have the same goals

2) They vote for the same ends.

This 1200 page amnesty would effectively destroy our country, and our biggest problem right now is how to stop
REPUBLICANS like Boehner & McConnell from helping the Democrats destroy the country.


28 posted on 07/23/2013 9:52:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Marco looks like the lead singer now. Send him.....96 beers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7uC5m-IRns


29 posted on 07/23/2013 9:52:15 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: Boogieman

Who the HELL is talking about PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARIES??????


30 posted on 07/23/2013 9:52:20 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Hojczyk

Cruz Makes An Outstanding First Impression in Iowa

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3046203/posts


31 posted on 07/23/2013 9:53:44 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Venturer

You are NOT a thinker....sorry.....that’s like saying Obama is Better than Romney as a President....how DUMB.


32 posted on 07/23/2013 9:53:50 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: txhurl

Cruz would definitely get my vote.


33 posted on 07/23/2013 9:58:27 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Ann Archy

The article you are commenting on.


34 posted on 07/23/2013 10:10:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Ann Archy
DITTO DITTO DITTO DITTO.

I don't like Rubio, but please FOCUS ON THAT TYRANT OBAMA and his synchopants Reid and Pelosi.

35 posted on 07/23/2013 10:13:39 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Hojczyk

And the GOPe will scratch their heads, wonder why, and continue to push for Amnesty.


36 posted on 07/23/2013 10:47:14 AM PDT by mykroar (China and Russia are playing chess while Obamas's playing 52 card pick-up.)
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To: CitizenUSA

No no NO

He’s not a shill for illegals. He couldn’t care less about them. Noone in Washington does.

Rubio obeys Washington’s master: $$$$$$$$$$$

He’s a shill for the 1%’ers making fortunes off the illegals.

Money rules everything.


37 posted on 07/23/2013 10:48:26 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Hojczyk

Rubio, isn’t that McCain’s man?


38 posted on 07/23/2013 10:50:36 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Ann Archy

I am sorry you do not approve of people who do not think the same as you.


39 posted on 07/23/2013 11:14:45 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Ann Archy

What makes you think Romney would have been better?

He invented Obamacare, Well at least he wasn’t racist.


40 posted on 07/23/2013 11:15:48 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: warchild9

I can’t really say what motivates him. He talks like he wants amnesty out of compassion. Maybe so. Maybe he has an ulterior motive like you describe. The bottom line is he’s a shill for amnesty. Of all the things he could have done as a conservative, his overriding, #1 concern above all else was AMNESTY.


41 posted on 07/23/2013 11:54:34 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: cotton1706

McCain won because the primary vote was too splintered. We need to unite behind the most Conservative candidate with a chance of winning to keep the RINO from slipping through to become the nominee. This is how they do it, not some vague “it’s the republicans fault”for running a lousy candidate. We are responsible, not them.


42 posted on 07/23/2013 1:30:58 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (Proud bitter clinging wacko bird chirper.)
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To: Venturer

You are ridiculous and somewhat DENSE if you don’t think Romney would be BETTER than OBAMA!!!


43 posted on 07/23/2013 3:27:43 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Venturer

THINK.....THAT’s the OPERATIVE WORD!! THINK..


44 posted on 07/23/2013 3:29:04 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Not happening. We say that but the liberals aka republicans would never allow another liberal to be hurt. Hurting the Rube or hurting barackus I, same thing both are lib trades.


45 posted on 07/23/2013 4:04:31 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: Ann Archy

I may be dense, I may be stupid, but I have voted for my last Romney or McCain.

If the Republicans want my vote they better back a Conservative.


46 posted on 07/23/2013 4:11:39 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Then GOODBYE AMERICA.....Thanks.


47 posted on 07/23/2013 4:14:22 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

You are welcome. Keep backing losers like Romney and McCain and Dole, and see how far that gets you.


48 posted on 07/23/2013 4:33:00 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: skeeter

They should attack Rubio on Wind and Ethanol as well if that’s what it takes to get rid of Rubio in Iowa and other swing states. He’d rather spend 100 times the amount on illegals that goes to wind tax credits.

Steve King can vouch for Ted Cruz.

Best Quote:
“You can’t beat King when he’s on his home turf.”


49 posted on 07/23/2013 5:57:10 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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