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To: freeandfreezing

“Mass slaughter” is a canard when it comes to the USA. Unless you are accepting the anti-US propaganda of Nazis, Islamists and Communists as legit. As for conscription per se, remember the Second Militia Act of 1792, under the authority of none other than President George Washington? Equating conscription and slavery is another canard.

Are you seriously trying to get a conservative to accept pornography merely on the basis of it being “legal”? Same with abortion and prostitution (the latter called “porneia” in the Greek New Testament)? The Founding Fathers would unilaterally call for the hanging rope, the context perhaps being lost on those unfamiliar with Judeo-Christian symbolism within jurisprudence (a person hung on a tree is cursed by God). As for Clinto(o)n, no, conservatives will always excoriate his behavior as a rotten and fatal character flaw and not anything positive, and even destructive to the nation.

The Founding Fathers emphasized morality to prevent the USA from making the same mistakes as (or worse than!) nation-states (or even empires) of the past, which all rotted from within thanks to a decline in morality. As I see things (and as you are apparently confirming), libertarians do not support the moral pillars of the USA.


52 posted on 07/26/2013 9:07:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
As I see things (and as you are apparently confirming), libertarians do not support the moral pillars of the USA.

No, I was simply pointing out that many, if not all of the issues identified in the book you cited were issues that the majority of citizens, even those who consider themselves conservatives, are not voting to change the laws about.

You cite the example of conscription, but avoid my point that few conservatives today would support mandatory conscription, except perhaps for the defense of the nation in the most dire of circumstances. Would you support mandatory "public service" if it meant young people spending a year doing community organizing, volunteer work, etc.?

Imagine a candidate whose platform was the reverse of all the issues listed, i.e. they were against free speech, in favor of mandatory government service, and said they would upon taking office outlaw all pornography, and arrest any men and women, even if married, who engaged in the kind of sexual behavior President Clinton enjoyed. How many votes would they get in an election?

60 posted on 07/26/2013 12:56:33 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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