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An Obamacare repeal threat is an existential threat to 0bama. He will not give in on this. There is no consequence we can threaten to impose on him that will affect that.

The only threat we have is to withhold funding. But 0bama does not fear that... he’ll just allow the gov’t to shut down until repubs cave - which they would.

With Senate plus Executive “in favor” of 0bamacare, the House alone can’t sway opinion to the extent that a gov’t shutdown would help.

If we had Senate plus House vs Executive it may be closer but I still think this is an existential threat to 0bama. He’ll shut it down until we cave and that is what he wants. He doesn’t care about how many lives he hurts - we do. We have the weakest position here and he knows it. It’ll make midterms problematic for us too - hence 0bama’s desire to pick the fight.

I don’t know the solution other than to win elections. Debt ceiling needs to apply lots and lots of pressure - don’t give him what he wants, give him less. Require that choices be made. We have the upper hand here because we have followed thru on that deal before hence the sequester. If the gov’t is funded - just not to the level that 0bama requests via debt ceiling increase request - he’ll have to find some places to cut back. EVERYONE understands that.

So using debt ceiling increase request has major advantages - we’ve previously “won” a similar negotiation and all Americans will understand our position b/c they’re in the same spot in their own lives.

flame on.

If it means losing the next election, who cares! Shut down this out of control government! The American people are behind “defunding” Obamacare, the American people are behind limited government, the American people are behind reining in this government, so what is the problem? Instead of worrying over “who is not going to like me” or “they will blame the republicans for shutting down the government” who cares who the moochers blame, who cars what NBC, ABC, or CNN says about the Republicans, they say it now. Take a stand, get a spine and shut this damn government down until Obamacare is defunded and cast into the pits of hell from whence it came, secure the borders (100%, this is America, there is nothing we can't do, even if it means sending soldiers to the border), end the EPA, hell, there are so many things the conservatives could accomplish if they only had some backbone, a pair of balls, and the will to stand up against these Marxist in the White-house! So they get the feelings hurt, the liberals don't say anything in favor of the Republicans now, so big deal, shut the government down until this government gets back under control by the American people and their representatives, then learns the government only operates at the pleasure of the American people, who can, and will shut it down anytime it gets out of control! Stop pissing on your self's Republicans every time someone says something unfavorable about you! Worry about the American people who elected you to office and this Country's future!