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Despite bankruptcy, Detroit’s new $400 million dollar hockey rink is a “go”
Hotair ^ | 07/27/2013 | Bruce McQuain

Posted on 07/27/2013 7:08:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Failure sometimes has an inertia that is difficult to stop. Detroit’s reality is anything but pretty:

Detroit city services are already stretched extremely thin. On average, police take about an hour to respond to calls for help, and 40% of street lights are shut off to save money.

Because of a lack of funds, the police force has shrunk in size to the point that it simply can’t respond in any meaningful way to help citizens who are victims of crime. As you might imagine then, crime is horrific. City services are so minimal as to almost be non-existent. Yet the refusal to face that reality and deal with it still exists among those who should know better:

Advocates of the arena say it’s the kind of economic development needed to attract both people and private investment dollars into downtown Detroit. It’s an argument that has convinced Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder and Kevyn Orr, the emergency manager he appointed to oversee the city’s finances, to stick with the plan. Orr said Detroit’s bankruptcy filing won’t halt the arena plans.

“I know there’s a lot of emotional concern about should we be spending the money,” said Orr. “But frankly that’s part of the economic development. We need jobs. If it is as productive as it’s supposed to be, that’s going to be a boon to the city.”

A boon? How can it be a boon to a city no one is willing to call home? How can it be a boon to a city where the chance of being the victim of a crime is almost off the charts in comparison to other cities? Without addressing those problems, how is a hockey rink going to attract anyone to Detroit?

It is this sort of leadership lunacy which led to Detroit’s current situation. And the governor and state legislature don’t escape blame either, as it took a vote there in December to okay the project and expenditure. In one of the few times you’ll see me agree with a Democrat about spending, I agree with this lady:

“If you want people to live in the city, and not just visit to go to games, you have to invest in schools, in having the police to respond to calls,” said Gretchen Whitmer, the Democratic leader in the state senate. “There are so many investments that should trump a sports stadium.”

Precisely right. So why, then, is this still going forward, given the current situation? It’s absurd (and frankly, I’ve always believed that sports teams make enough money to build their own stadiums without taxpayer subsidy).

The state legislature approved it. They can now disapprove it. Yes, there may be a few contracts they are legally obligated to pay that have been let since the approval in December. But it won’t be near $440 million dollars. And, if that money is still available after it has been reclaimed, perhaps Kevyn Orr should make another trip to the capitol and convince the governor and legislature of the need to invest that money where it might help salvage Detroit, or at least begin to do those things necessary to improve the quality of life there so people will come back to live in the city.

A hockey rink isn’t one of those “necessary” things.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; chapter9; detroit; michigan; rosemaryaquillina

1 posted on 07/27/2013 7:08:05 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


2 posted on 07/27/2013 7:13:51 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How far is Tiger Stadium from Joe Louis?


3 posted on 07/27/2013 7:14:19 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: SeekAndFind
We need jobs. If it is as productive as it’s supposed to be, that’s going to be a boon to the city.”

Well, okay, if you're that sure.

But if you turn out to be wrong, well, SOMEbody is going to get an earful, yessireebob.

4 posted on 07/27/2013 7:14:32 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t Detroit just build a monorail instead?


5 posted on 07/27/2013 7:15:42 PM PDT by SIDENET
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm just a common knucklehead, but:

Wouldn't it have been much better if they had spent;

NOTHING!

6 posted on 07/27/2013 7:25:07 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: SIDENET
Can’t Detroit just build a monorail instead?

Gallows might be more useful, as well as considerably less expensive.

7 posted on 07/27/2013 7:31:17 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not? WTF. Keep the chit going.


8 posted on 07/27/2013 7:38:13 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: SeekAndFind

Nice balloon-puncturer to have when someone brings up “bailing out” Detroit.


9 posted on 07/27/2013 7:42:23 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: SeekAndFind

According to the governmental multiplier effect, this $400 million boondoggle will end up as an $800 million boondoggle.


10 posted on 07/27/2013 7:42:40 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Will the stadium accept EBT cards?


11 posted on 07/27/2013 7:52:18 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: SeekAndFind

maybe it a money maker. the tigers took out the phils tonight 10-0


12 posted on 07/27/2013 7:57:15 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (i don't beleive that any court in this country is operating lawfully anyway)
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To: SeekAndFind

The political class needs to siphon off whatever money is left in the public coffers before the house of cards collapses.


13 posted on 07/27/2013 8:00:48 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: SIDENET
Can’t Detroit just build a monorail instead?

Oh, they built the "economic savior" monorail, 25 years ago: The People Mugger Mover!


14 posted on 07/27/2013 8:10:06 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: SeekAndFind

Sort of like ordering up more sheets of music for the Titanic’s band.


15 posted on 07/27/2013 8:23:23 PM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: SeekAndFind

Eh.....it’s a common mistake. The Detroit City Council asked for more money and they thought someone said, “Get your stick up on the ice.”


16 posted on 07/27/2013 8:34:35 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a bargain! For $100 million less than brocko is giving the palestinians, with NO authorization whatsoever, DEEtroit will get an arena — and there will actually be something to show for it.


17 posted on 07/27/2013 8:35:24 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Honestly, somebody should make a monopoly game using Detroit. Every time you pass “GO!”, you get two crackheads.
“Crap! I landed on your property. How many empty crack houses do you have on it?”
“Three. That means you owe me two hookers and a dead body.”


18 posted on 07/27/2013 8:39:20 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SIDENET

There’ is an empty monorail


19 posted on 07/27/2013 8:49:19 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

NO!

The hoi polloi must have their Bread & Circuses... well, at least Food Stamps & Stadiums/Arenas!

2000 years and nothing has changed.

(forgive me mixing Greek & Roman, although Greek was the trade language for much of the Roman Empire, right?))


20 posted on 07/27/2013 8:50:23 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: ncalburt

It’s not a monorail at all. It’s a linear acceleration train identical to Vancouver’s Skytrain. At least Skytrain is a success because it goes places where people want to go and carries a vast number of people daily. But then, Vancouver is a successful city.


21 posted on 07/27/2013 8:53:30 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Yossarian
Yep, over budget, over estimated time, and mostly empty.

Only 400 million (the same price as the hockey rink) for 2.9 miles of "People Mover".

Liberalism at its finest.

22 posted on 07/27/2013 8:54:00 PM PDT by SIDENET
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To: Publius

Way better demographic situation and ton of Asian money.

The tiger stadium is a nice .


23 posted on 07/27/2013 8:57:43 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force)
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To: SIDENET
Or maybe a maglev train ... that's what Detroit could build with all their excess tax money. The hundreds of millions of dollars a maglev would cost could provide jobs... and people could ride in style to pick up their disability checks...

Or Detroit could build a Disney World theme park and a Space Station with a Unicorn farm... Must be fun to run Detroit - where reality doesn't matter.

24 posted on 07/27/2013 9:03:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat dream: An America for everyone but Americans... freeper molson209)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just brought this up last night in a conversation. The uniformed see it as a way to bring revenue in...I just do not get it. Whole world = nutso


25 posted on 07/27/2013 9:05:56 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: SeekAndFind

Visit The Quaint CIty Of Detroit where EVERYTHING..... is SIMPLY SURREAL!


26 posted on 07/27/2013 9:11:15 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Macabre Crumpet of Caucasian Ethnicity)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

who in their RIGHT MIND...with a dollar to their name.....would .....

allow me to repeat the word SURREAL...again


27 posted on 07/27/2013 9:12:40 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Macabre Crumpet of Caucasian Ethnicity)
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To: umgud
Will the stadium accept EBT cards?

Exactly. Who can afford to go to these games? If they build it, people will come? Wild.

28 posted on 07/27/2013 9:17:16 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ha. Ha ha ha ha.

I mean, seriously.


29 posted on 07/27/2013 9:21:58 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: SeekAndFind

“Throwing good money after bad”


30 posted on 07/27/2013 11:41:13 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: SeekAndFind
The Detroit Redwings have always filled their arena, and they've always put a winning product on the ice.

That being said, it should be a good enough investment that no tax dollars would be needed.

Private business could finance it.

I'm still angry at our government here in PA for making taxpayers foot $47.6 million of the $321 million cost of Consol Energy Center. A deal was in place that would have given the owner a gambling license in exchange for using no taxpayer funding.

But Ed Rendell refused, giving the gaming license to one of his buddies in Pittsburgh.

31 posted on 07/28/2013 12:16:52 AM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: airborne

It should be done privately, there is no excuse for this stuff


32 posted on 07/28/2013 12:21:44 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
It should be done privately, there is no excuse for this stuff

Absolutely!

33 posted on 07/28/2013 5:47:04 AM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: SeekAndFind; shove_it; Hat-Trick; SZonian; retrokitten; hollywood; Alberta's Child; Betis70; ...

Hockey Ping!

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34 posted on 07/28/2013 5:48:13 AM PDT by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: SeekAndFind

The thing is, there is no real relationship between the cities and the franchises named for them. The “profit” and jobs so many prosper from comes mainly from suburban fans and Big Media income streams. If every square foot of Detroit was used to a purpose like that of the Red Wings, Detroit would be fat and prosperous.


35 posted on 07/28/2013 7:01:55 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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36 posted on 07/28/2013 7:03:38 AM PDT by narses
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To: narses

The Red Wngs are the only thing in Detroit that makes any money. Unless the Wings themselves are putting up the money, this should be a non-starter.

On a lighter note, with my son going up to the Northeast to play college hockey this year, I am officially out of retirement and will be coaching again.


37 posted on 07/28/2013 7:53:48 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Yossarian

Sorry Mom, the mob has spoken.

They should build a $440M basketball arena while they're at it, and change the NBA team's name to the "Detroit Pissed Ons"

38 posted on 07/28/2013 8:14:16 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: SIDENET

Detroit HAS a monorail. It’s called The People Mover and has been operable in a loop through downtown for more than 25 years. Few people ride it because you are trapped on there between stops with everyone else and that includes the odd urban feral.


39 posted on 07/28/2013 8:16:55 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: GOPJ
Or maybe a maglev train ...
I think they should build a space shuttle. Our old ones are no longer in service, and with all the contributions the Muslims have made to science in the last thousand years, the local population could knock one out no sweat. Then they can clear another couple dozen square miles downtown and let it rip. Plus, people could line up on the Canadian side of the river without getting shot or mugged and watch the lift-offs. Voila! Tourist attraction; problems solved, Q.E.D.
40 posted on 07/28/2013 9:35:23 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: airborne

Few details about this project have been released but it does appear the vast majority of funding will be private ...

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20121204/NEWS/121209958/ilitches-plan-downtown-development-that-includes-new-hockey-arena#


41 posted on 07/28/2013 10:38:28 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us about 0bama's America)
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