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FBI Fesses Up: We’ve Used Domestic Drones 10 Times
Slate ^ | July 26, 2013 | Ryan Gallagher

Posted on 07/28/2013 5:01:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Last month, the FBI admitted it had used surveillance drones in domestic airspace but refused to disclose specific details. Now, after pressure from Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., the bureau has been forced to come clean.

In a recent letter to Paul, published on the senator’s website Thursday, the FBI acknowledges that it has used drones domestically in 10 cases in response to a “specific, operational need.” The bureau says that, since late 2006, it has used unmanned planes for surveillance to support missions related to kidnappings, search and rescue operations, drug interdictions, and fugitive investigations. On eight occasions the drones were used as part of criminal cases, and two in national security-related operations.

In none of these cases, the bureau says, did it apply for a warrant to conduct the drone surveillance. The letter states that the FBI will seek a warrant when using a drone only if it is attempting "to acquire information in which individuals have reasonable expectations of privacy under the Fourth Amendment." But it does not clarify exactly what kind of information it believes individuals have a reasonable expectation of privacy over. Paul has requested that the FBI provide more details, saying he is concerned that the bureau may be adopting an “overbroad” interpretation of the rules in order to conduct warrantless surveillance....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: domesticdrones; drones; ericholder; fascism; fbi; fbidrones; kentucky; obama; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls; surveillance; thekycandidate; uavs
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To: jy8z
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21 posted on 07/28/2013 5:34:18 PM PDT by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10 times or 10, 000 times, the message coming out of the obama administration is consistently “we don’t care what the law is, we are going to do what ever we want to do. If we get called on it, we will lie. If we get caught red handed, we will just lie more and delay, obfuscate, and deflect.” This is the most corrupt, dishonest administration in history. Well, in the US anyway. They seem to be going for the global title too.


22 posted on 07/28/2013 5:35:00 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“We’re only going to apply for a warrant when it pertains to reasonable expectations of privacy, and now, with the NSA revelations, no one reasonably believes they have any privacy whatsoever, in any sphere at all, ergo, we have stopped asking for warrants and will use the drones 24/7 everywhere over the entire country. Thanks for the very good question. Next question please.”


23 posted on 07/28/2013 5:35:38 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; a fool in paradise

Finally, a plausible explanation of what happened to the missing FReepers such as quidam, Howlin, Michael Rivero, and classygreeneyedblonde, to list just a few.


24 posted on 07/28/2013 5:38:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hellfire missiles are expensive and in limited number. They’re not going to waste them on the likes of you and me.

LOL, you are correct sir, but would you believe a couple of standard NATO rounds? Those are cheaper.

25 posted on 07/28/2013 5:39:22 PM PDT by Mark17 (Yesterday I couldn't spell it. Today I are one, a creepy a$$ cracker)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You took the words out of my mouth.


26 posted on 07/28/2013 5:40:04 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How is a drone different from a stake out in an adjacent building or an auto?


27 posted on 07/28/2013 5:42:17 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Revolting cat!; quidam; Howlin; Michael Rivero; classygreeneyedblonde

Don’t forget to ping them. And who was the liberal female who was famous here in the old days? Can’t recall the name.


28 posted on 07/28/2013 5:42:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Silly

I know the female you have in mind, though she was more recent than tghe others, no? Somebody will recall the nick. And then, there was Silly!


29 posted on 07/28/2013 5:46:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If God can see you, you have no expectation of privacy.


30 posted on 07/28/2013 5:55:55 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: null and void

And He’s watching everyone. On both sides.


31 posted on 07/28/2013 5:58:02 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: bert

It is very different. For starters, there are no LEOs on the scene when you have a drone patrolling overhead. The drone operator (domestically) may be 500 miles away. Perhaps if the surveillance was from manned aircraft your argument would be stronger.


32 posted on 07/28/2013 5:58:40 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino

And the drone overhead may be flown by some perv 500 miles away that’s never been a LEO.

Or a terrorist.

Or a criminal gang looking for targets.

etc.


33 posted on 07/28/2013 6:00:35 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Murraysmom? (can’t ping her)


34 posted on 07/28/2013 6:00:44 PM PDT by null and void (You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And Weiner only flashed his junk a couple of times...


35 posted on 07/28/2013 6:01:59 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: hadaclueonce
I see a big need for balloons and 100 feet of light wire.

A fleet released will cause havoc.

A slow moving high visibility thing like that will get anyone who deploys them arrested and imprisoned.

In order to get your freedom, ultimately conservatives are going to have to strap on a pair and start shooting at those who control the drones (and who make slaves of you in 1000s of other ways).

The elites know conservatives are too cowardly to do that, and that is why they will keep taking more from you.

36 posted on 07/28/2013 6:06:05 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: dinodino

The drone operator is not relevant. The FBI (Federal LEO) special agent observing the video is what is relevant.

Additionally, the recording of what was observed is evidence.


37 posted on 07/28/2013 6:08:38 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: null and void

Yeah, I think that’s the one. She gone?


38 posted on 07/28/2013 6:09:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: ClaytonP
Welcome to Free Republic. It's considered bad form to incite violence.

/johnny

39 posted on 07/28/2013 6:10:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"You did not pay your pRes_ _ent your dhimmi tax.
The IRS has deemed that today you die."

40 posted on 07/28/2013 6:11:09 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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