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To: Jeff Winston
Legally, there is really no doubt about the natural born citizenship of someone born on US soil, even to non-citizen parents. Like Obama. The Supreme Court settled that back in 1898, in the Wong case.

Yeah, what was that holding again?

"Children born in the United States generally acquire United States citizenship at birth via the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment."

And of course we have Justice Waite specifically asserting that the 14th amendment does not define "natural born citizen." (of course not, it didn't exist in 1787.)

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

Once again, you people rely on the weakest possible standard of "citizen", and then you deliberately conflate "citizen" with "natural citizen".

Drink your Anchor Baby soup Jeff.

495 posted on 08/02/2013 6:50:52 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Once again, you people rely on the weakest possible standard of "citizen", and then you deliberately conflate "citizen" with "natural citizen".

You're either a complete jackass, or simply a liar.

I don't "rely" on anything. I look at history and law to see how people defined terms used in our Constitution and our law. Which, incidentally, was what I thought the discussion was about.

And I have NEVER, EVER failed to distinguish the meanings of "citizen" and "natural born citizen."

Neither has anybody else.

503 posted on 08/02/2013 10:49:11 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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