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Now Homeschoolers, Private School Kids Have Right to Play on Public School Sports Teams (Ohio)
npr.org ^ | 29 July 2013 | BY MOLLY BLOOM

Posted on 07/29/2013 1:09:32 PM PDT by 11th_VA

Homeschooled and private-school students across Ohio now have the right to play on sports teams and participate in other extracurricular activities thanks to a provision in the new state budget.

Previously, each local school board came up with its own policy on the issue.

Athletic and other extracurricular associations have their own rules about student participation in competitive or inter-scholastic activities. This provisions in the state budget override those rules.

Under the new provisions, public schools must allow private-school students to participate in an extracurricular activity only if their private schools do not offer the same activity.

And both homeschooled and private-school students must meet the same age and grade requirements as district students and pay the same fees, if any are required. The Ohio High School Athletic Association isn’t thrilled about the changes. The changes go against the principles that help sports contribute to positive “educational outcomes,” the association says:

Included among these desirable educational outcomes are the instilment [sic] of the notion of citizenship, loyalty and school spirit, the building of a cohesive student body, the promotion of amateurism by drawing athletes from the school’s population only which, in turn, discourages an overemphasis on sports, avoids “team shopping,” keeps in proper perspective the relationships among student-athletes and coaches and secures role models for other students.

The state budget also allows homeschooled students to fully participate in Ohio’s Post-Secondary Enrollment Options Program. The program allow students to enroll in college courses while in high school for both high-school and college credit. The state pays for the cost of the courses.

The program is already open to private-school students.


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1 posted on 07/29/2013 1:09:32 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Good.


2 posted on 07/29/2013 1:11:24 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: 11th_VA

And why not?

The taxes paid by their parents support the public schools.


3 posted on 07/29/2013 1:11:33 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Arm_Bears

yep


4 posted on 07/29/2013 1:12:47 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 11th_VA
No Problem.
Tebow was home schooled and played on a HS team in JAX. . . .
5 posted on 07/29/2013 1:13:58 PM PDT by DeaconRed (Phony Scandals?: How about Phony President, Phony AG & Phony Administration.)
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To: metmom

Ping to metmom.


6 posted on 07/29/2013 1:15:58 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: 11th_VA
The Ohio High School Athletic Association isn’t thrilled about the changes.

Then they should petition the government to waive all school taxes of any kind from homeschooling families.
They would go for that, right?

7 posted on 07/29/2013 1:16:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 11th_VA

Why not the parents all pay taxes


8 posted on 07/29/2013 1:16:21 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Arm_Bears
Aside from it no longer really being a school team, who could object?

I am getting increasingly cynical about high school and college athletics. Maybe it's time to sever the link and make club sports the baseline. Schools could still have intramural sports as a part of the PE program, but perhaps they're not the place for highly competitive athletics.

And let the NFL and NBA run their own farm systems. College football and basketball jumped the shark a long time ago. Kudos to the remaining legitimate student athletes, but the saving remnant has perhaps dropped below critical mass.

9 posted on 07/29/2013 1:18:17 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: 11th_VA

The Ohio High School Athletic Association isn’t thrilled about the changes.

Probably cause the home schoolers will do better than the regulars and that will PO the coaches and NEA


10 posted on 07/29/2013 1:18:24 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: 11th_VA

Virgin kids! Fresh meat for the bi-and transsexual locker rooms. Trust my kids to liberal teachers and their progeny.

No thanks. Take a pass.


11 posted on 07/29/2013 1:18:43 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 11th_VA

Marvelous... Homeschoolers hooking up to the soccer mom welfare train. I don’t care where you school your kids, but if you want them to play games or to be in clubs, open up your own damned checkbook and pay for it yourself. It’s not my job to entertain and recreate the kids you brought into the world.


12 posted on 07/29/2013 1:19:49 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

Parents will have to pay the same fees and public school kids, so the will be opening their own damn wallets.
Oh, yea, and the HS parents are already paying public school taxes.....


13 posted on 07/29/2013 1:28:14 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Orangedog

Orangedog, you’re junkyard dog ... down boy ...


14 posted on 07/29/2013 1:28:28 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: Orangedog

Excuse me.

Public schools are funded by tax payer money - mine included. Even if you don’t have kids you pay.

So a parent with home school or private school kids living in that public school area is supporting that system with their taxes. So why shouldn’t their kids be able to play on that tax payer supported team?

I noticed two items in the law that I agreed with 1st - Only if the private school didn’t have that sport and 2nd That the parents would have to pay any and all fees the public school kids had to pay.


15 posted on 07/29/2013 1:30:00 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Orangedog
...if you want them to play games or to be in clubs, open up your own damned checkbook and pay for it yourself.

Homeschoolers already do that, by paying the property taxes that support local schools. Homeschoolers don't get a tax waiver just because Junior learns his algebra at the dinner table.

16 posted on 07/29/2013 1:31:44 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: t1b8zs

That’s a silly statement. Academically the home schoolers would likely do better, but there’s no indication they would athletically.


17 posted on 07/29/2013 1:32:00 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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Previously, each local school board came up with its own policy on the issue.

And that's the way it should have stayed. The locals pay the bulk of the taxes and elect to local school board. Now the state is mandating the participation policy.

I say it's a load of bull.

I can't believe all of the advocating of state mandates infringing on the decisions of local communities.
18 posted on 07/29/2013 1:32:16 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: 11th_VA

They definitely should have had a home-schooled fourth grader write that press release.


19 posted on 07/29/2013 1:34:28 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: svcw

I don’t have a problem with this at all. Kids will still have to try out so only the best will make the teams anyway. It will make the teams stronger.


20 posted on 07/29/2013 1:35:33 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Oberon

Great. How about I get a tax break for not having any kids to play games? The answer to tax payers getting fleeced for soccer mom welfare is not to add more people with their hands out. Funny how this site gets lousy with suburban welfare queens when it comes to someone else paying to entertain their kids.


21 posted on 07/29/2013 1:37:43 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: 11th_VA

I disagree!

I couldn’t disagree more!

Make the public school kids have to join my homeschooled kids’ team in my back yard. We need bigger teams!

Rosary at half-time!


22 posted on 07/29/2013 1:41:43 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Orangedog
Funny how this site gets lousy with suburban welfare queens when it comes to someone else paying to entertain their kids.

The difference between a homeschooling parent and a welfare queen is that the homeschooling parent is, generally speaking, a property owner, a taxpayer, and someone who is already shouldering the load for the rest of the members of society who aren't contributing anything.

If you want to truly solve this problem in a paleo-con kind of way (which I would be fine with), do away with every kind of public education jurisdiction above the community level. Do away with county, state, and federal mandates for education, and let every little down or every city neighborhood decide for themselves what they want to do for education (if anything), and how they're going to pay for it.

This is the "Little House on the Prairie" model, and it is actually quite effective.

23 posted on 07/29/2013 1:43:43 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon

(...that’s “every little town,” not “every little down.” Sorry.)


24 posted on 07/29/2013 1:44:54 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon

So as long as the suburban welfare is flowing you’ll be there with your hand out. Can we get you a block of government cheese, too while me and everyone else pays for your kids to play games? Make sure you get your obama phone, too. Yeah, I’m losing more and more respect for homeschoolers with every one of these handouts they demand other people to fund.


25 posted on 07/29/2013 1:49:29 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: 11th_VA

This is not good in the long run...

It’s a foot in the door for the courts to interfere... this round forcing public schools. Next round forcing home-schoolers.

Either home-schooling is separate or it is not. If this is allowed, then it is an opening to more court-ordered decisions that will NOT be liked by parents.


26 posted on 07/29/2013 1:49:34 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: 11th_VA
As long as a student is involved in activities in their district, it seems only fair. It might actually be a way to get the most talented atheletes and those with other talents from going to private schools. This aspect stops the public schools from being deprived of their talents.

There is one little problem. Those home-study atheletes will use extra time to practice, because they can concentrate their school day. Those parents who can afford it can use that time to hire top-notch coaches and other mentors. You will find schools using the home-schooled option to better prepare their star atheletes.

27 posted on 07/29/2013 1:52:59 PM PDT by grania
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To: Orangedog
Great. How about I get a tax break for not having any kids to play games? The answer to tax payers getting fleeced for soccer mom welfare is not to add more people with their hands out. Funny how this site gets lousy with suburban welfare queens when it comes to someone else paying to entertain their kids.

I see you probably learned comprehension at a public school. We homeschoolers ALREADY pay for this stuff. So do you. But. Too many school systems say we can't allow our children to play with the children who ARE ALL PAYING FOR THIS ALREADY!

Get it now?

28 posted on 07/29/2013 1:59:12 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Orangedog
The facilities are there and funded whether home-schoolers are there or not.

/johnny

29 posted on 07/29/2013 2:02:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Orangedog

Home schooled families are paying for the public schools they don’t even use. What don’t you get about that?


30 posted on 07/29/2013 2:03:10 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Orangedog
Yeah, I’m losing more and more respect for homeschoolers with every one of these handouts they demand other people to fund.

For the record, my homeschooled children have got all their physical education outside of the public school systems that I continue to pay for.

31 posted on 07/29/2013 2:05:13 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: raybbr
Get it now?

I think he does... he's just baiting us.

32 posted on 07/29/2013 2:06:01 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: svcw

every little bit helps


33 posted on 07/29/2013 2:15:46 PM PDT by genghis
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To: 11th_VA

How will they ensure that kids who can’t meet grade requirements won’t use home-school to avoid the problem?


34 posted on 07/29/2013 2:19:16 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: bigdaddy45

Guess will have to wait and see


35 posted on 07/29/2013 2:27:49 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: 11th_VA

Having your home schooled kids in public school sports teams is just another way to invite the government back into educating your kids again.

Make a clean break and be done with it.


36 posted on 07/29/2013 2:30:12 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: raybbr; Orangedog

Orangedog must be a renter and not understand how city, county, state and Federal tax money supports public school systems.


37 posted on 07/29/2013 2:34:51 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Tired of Taxes; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

38 posted on 07/29/2013 2:35:53 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: willyd
Home schooled families are paying for the public schools they don’t even use. What don’t you get about that?

If the public school or homeschool parents want their kids to play games, they should be paying the full freight, not picking my pocket because they chose to whelp out a litter. It's either welfare or theft...or both. What don't you get about that?

39 posted on 07/29/2013 2:36:58 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
Marvelous... Homeschoolers hooking up to the soccer mom welfare train. I don’t care where you school your kids, but if you want them to play games or to be in clubs, open up your own damned checkbook and pay for it yourself. It’s not my job to entertain and recreate the kids you brought into the world.

Do you agree, then, that homeschoolers should not be paying school taxes to educate and feed public school kids THEY didn't bring into the world?

40 posted on 07/29/2013 2:38:02 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: PeteB570

Renters pay the property tax of the landlord.


41 posted on 07/29/2013 2:41:31 PM PDT by wrcase
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To: Truthsearcher

If one is opposed to public school to the extent that you remove your children from the system, why would you let your child represent the school you oppose by being on their football team?


42 posted on 07/29/2013 2:44:18 PM PDT by wrcase
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To: wrcase

Yeah, they do but they don’t know that.


43 posted on 07/29/2013 2:45:13 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: PeteB570; raybbr
Orangedog must be a renter and not understand how city, county, state and Federal tax money supports public school systems.

No, Orangedog is a homeowner who is sick and tired of the fat suburban welfare queens expecting him to pay to entertain their kids. I mean, if people like me weren't paying for their welfare they might actually have to spend some more time with the little bastards and we can't have that, can we?!

44 posted on 07/29/2013 2:47:24 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: metmom
Do you agree, then, that homeschoolers should not be paying school taxes to educate and feed public school kids THEY didn't bring into the world?

So long as I'm not paying to entertain and recreate either groups' kids, yes, I'm good with that.

45 posted on 07/29/2013 2:48:39 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: PeteB570

“Orangedog must be a renter and not understand how city, county, state and Federal tax money supports public school systems.”

=

And of course all renters are stupid.

Lordy.

.


46 posted on 07/29/2013 2:53:30 PM PDT by Mears
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To: raybbr
I see you probably learned comprehension at a public school. We homeschoolers ALREADY pay for this stuff. So do you. But. Too many school systems say we can't allow our children to play with the children who ARE ALL PAYING FOR THIS ALREADY! Get it now?

Yeah, I'm getting it. I'm seeing a bunch of welfare queens who want their fair share of the government cheese. Make sure you gets you obama phone, too!

47 posted on 07/29/2013 2:57:04 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: C210N
Either home-schooling is separate or it is not. If this is allowed, then it is an opening to more court-ordered decisions that will NOT be liked by parents.

No no no...let these fools learn the hard way. Just like with marriage, they beg Big Brother for favors with other peoples' money and then get all pissy when Big Brother starts attaching strings to those favors. Maybe when they start getting surprise home inspections from department of education SWAT teams they'll pick up the Clue Phone.

48 posted on 07/29/2013 3:01:49 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: svcw
Parents will have to pay the same fees and public school kids, so the will be opening their own damn wallets.

Get back to me when those public school and home school welfare queens are staying out of my wallet to fund playtime.

49 posted on 07/29/2013 3:04:22 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Oberon
For the record, my homeschooled children have got all their physical education outside of the public school systems that I continue to pay for.

Wow...mine did, too! Where's my welfare and free cheese?

50 posted on 07/29/2013 3:09:10 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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