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Obama: Pay gap ‘morally wrong’
The Hill ^ | - 07/30/13 05:00 AM EDT | By Peter Schroeder

Posted on 07/30/2013 3:42:05 AM PDT by onyx

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To: freedomfiter2
I don't disagree and wasn't making a statement about the validity of the Pope's statement. I was pointing to Obama’s ‘theft’ of the Holy Father's remarks and applying it to his own agenda.
61 posted on 07/30/2013 5:58:27 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: onyx

How bout we have income TAX equality? How bout that you MARXIST pile of dog sh!t!


62 posted on 07/30/2013 6:00:13 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: ThunderSleeps

Just read this AM some company in Michigan bought Elan Corp in Ireland...now they can move their operations to Ireland where the Corp tax is 12.5%. Good bye USA, Hello Emerald Isle...(we need St Patrick here to chase out the snakes in government).

As far as family income staying flat since 79, well Oboingo, my income from 79 to now has gone up more than 500% not counting for inflation which means it probably has gone up about 200% in constant dollars. Why is that? Well, I changed jobs a few times and each time found one with more responsibility in another state, I gained experience in each position, did well, and completed some additional education to my bachelors degree. I was never arrested, don’t do drugs, am married to a woman, my hair is closely cropped, I have no tatoos, paid off all my debts, did not go bankrupt and received no government assistance. BTW, Oboingo, I started out at minimum wage which was $1 an hour while I attended school.


63 posted on 07/30/2013 6:06:31 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: onyx
Growing income inequality “undermines the very essence of America,” he told the crowd in Galesburg

Of course, because as everybody knows, when the country was founded, we all made the same amount of money.

64 posted on 07/30/2013 6:17:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: onyx

Raise it to $521/hour and we can all make 1 million a year. Better yet, just print the money and give it to me, why work for it? That’s just another inconvenient step...


65 posted on 07/30/2013 6:23:41 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: onyx

How much money is on the sidelines, enriching the ultra-wealthy, because people are holding off investment because of our current regulatory environment?


66 posted on 07/30/2013 6:30:16 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gun Control Haiku: Say "Registration" / And they call you paranoid / So say "Privacy")
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To: onyx

Democrats are immoral.


67 posted on 07/30/2013 6:47:11 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: onyx
A few points:

(1) When half the working age population is on the government dole it tends to drag down the average family income.

(2) Class envy sells well to those who would prefer not to exert the effort needed to be responsible and productive citizens.

(3) People making the minimum wage in 1968 paid meaningful income taxes. Today they get an earned income tax credit, food stamps and a housing voucher.

(4) McDonalds has built a system that allows them to get by with otherwise unemployable workers. If the employees were good at what they are doing they would be waiting tables at a good resturant and making decent money.

68 posted on 07/30/2013 6:52:22 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: onyx

So Obama, are you saying your trickle up poverty schemes are not working?


69 posted on 07/30/2013 6:58:47 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: onyx
So speaks the Marxist hypocrite. Obama vacays among the wealthy elite and takes every tax break available.
70 posted on 07/30/2013 7:11:48 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: onyx

This growing inequality is not just morally wrong, it’s bad economics,” Obama said in remarks last week in Galesburg, Ill., where he began a new push on the economy.”

What the heck does he know about economics, bad or good? Did he see the stimulus as good? Cash for clunkers as good? Billions in loans and subsidies to green companies that go bankrupt as good?

“The income of the top 1 percent nearly quadrupled from 1979-2007, but the typical family’s incomes barely budged,”

Interesting that he stops at 2007. I wonder what the figured are from 2007 to today.


71 posted on 07/30/2013 7:22:24 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: MinuteGal
***He's intent on ruling by fiat, he's surrounded by a marxist palace guard.....he's travelling the country setting the stage for rioting and street warfare......and he's actually out of our control because he's unchecked by any determined opposition or Justice Department reins***

Ditto! Clearly an act of a person dedicated to dividing and destroying America - with the help of many stupid as well as traitorous citizens [and probably illegal aliens].

Don't be too confident that he is a lame duck... I am not convinced he will leave power in Jan of 2017... he has all the earmarks of all the tyrants we saw in the 20th century. With his computer files on all 'opposition' he can demand an extension of his term without much opposition.

State secession may be the only answer.

72 posted on 07/30/2013 9:03:09 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: onyx
ObamaCare's requirements are a defacto increase in the minimum wage for anyone working over 30 hours a week at one job, because it forces additional compensation in the form of subsidized health insurance benefits.

Today, as a minimum wage worker, to get more compensation, you need to work more hours at the same job. Raising the minimum wage would hurt ObamaCare, first because it would increase the employers' push to part-time jobs, and it would make it more lucrative for those with multiple sub-30 hour jobs.

In fact, I bet someone could make more take-home pay working two 20-hour part time minimum wage jobs and paying the ObamaCare penalty than working one 40-hour minimum wage job and buying the required subsidized health insurance from their employer.

73 posted on 07/30/2013 9:11:24 AM PDT by magellan
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To: MinuteGal; gonzo; seekthetruth
...Oh, and let us not forget that the Administration proposes to recalculate the definition of the Gross National Product. By including bird droppings and cough phlegm in the GNP we can reduce the debt-to-GNP ratio to a point where we can borrow [or counterfeit] another $17 trillion worth of digital paper in debt...

How does all this end well? Even the $ trillions that Wall Street is compiling may be needed to buy just one Big Mac.

74 posted on 07/30/2013 9:11:29 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

Does that mean that the Obama’s are going to share some of their wealth with poor and hungry?


75 posted on 07/30/2013 9:13:33 AM PDT by Eva (B Obama is to Trayvon Martin as Al Sharpton is to Tawana Brawley)
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To: Eva
***...the Obama’s are going to share some of their wealth....***

:-D Are you referring to King Louis 'bama XVI and his lovely Harpie Marie 'bama Antoinette?

All they can offer to share is their hatred.

76 posted on 07/30/2013 9:26:16 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: onyx

This mentally-diseased, morally-corrupt jackass of a communist is lecturing the country on what’s “morally right & wrong”? BONG! Next comedian, please!!!


78 posted on 07/30/2013 9:51:46 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Excellent example:

“Suppose I own a coal mine. I hire two guys to dig coal for me. One guy is weak and lazy and only digs up a ton a day. The second guy is strong and hard-working and digs up 2 tons a day. What would be fair—paying them the same amount (thus eliminating “income inequality”) or paying them according to their output?

Suppose I hire a third guy who is of a scientific bent and who invents a digging machine that can extract 100 tons of coal a day. He had worked for years developing the machine, which cost him a great deal of money to manufacture. By employing his machine in my coal mine, I can generate profits equal to that of 100 times that of my slow worker, or 50 times that of my fast worker. Is it “fair” if I pay the inventor the same amount that I pay digger one or digger two? Or is the “pay gap” that would occur if I pay the inventor an amount proportionate to his production unfair?”

Now, add another parameter to the above.

The desire to succeed + the necessary skills to succeed are obtained and maintained by the individual worker.

Take two individuals, who will use the new coal digging machine:

Group 1. The first is an entitle EO union thug, who feels he/she/it is entitled to the same pay as anyone. He/she/it will perform at the bottom of a performance scale and never do anything to increase their skills and productivity.

Group 2. The second individual doesn’t believe in entitlement, he/she studies hard and works with improved knowledge and consistently out performs the entitled ones, in group 1. He/she consistently out produces the group 1’s.

In Obama’s world, he/she is not entitled to any more pay in spite significantly of their individual higher produtivity.


79 posted on 07/30/2013 10:08:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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To: Bob Ireland

“Don’t be too confident that he is a lame duck... I am not convinced he will leave power in Jan of 2017... he has all the earmarks of all the tyrants we saw in the 20th century. With his computer files on all ‘opposition’ he can demand an extension of his term without much opposition.”

When he was first running for el Presidento, many of us were warning that he could become another FDR and never leave office.


80 posted on 07/30/2013 10:10:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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