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Obama: Pay gap ‘morally wrong’
The Hill ^ | - 07/30/13 05:00 AM EDT | By Peter Schroeder

Posted on 07/30/2013 3:42:05 AM PDT by onyx

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To: GeronL

How can this rich man who never worked a day in his life other than stirring the excrement in the black community complain that some people make more money than others.

He is rich because Bill Ayres(a terrorist) wrote his book about his drunken womanizing Muslim father, and because of his political connection with radical Socialists, and he wants to take away the rewards of those who did actually work to get rich.


41 posted on 07/30/2013 4:51:38 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance)
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To: onyx

To the extent that the elites use regulations and immigration to depress wages, it is.


42 posted on 07/30/2013 4:55:26 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: onyx

Don’t get mad at Obama. You have to realize that his calling in life is as a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER. In other words, a troublemaker.

He has no other experience in life and certainly not that of a President who actually manages and protects the security and laws of our country.

He’s doing what he does best....PROPAGANDA and HATE AND DISCONTENT.


43 posted on 07/30/2013 4:58:04 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: liberalh8ter

The Bible would support that.


44 posted on 07/30/2013 4:58:21 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Christian1
silly person; they're there only for the (single/family) taxer-paid vacations,
AF1 flights to nowhere and separate golf trips w/his very personal male posse.

45 posted on 07/30/2013 5:00:23 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: onyx; mickie; flaglady47; Chigirl 26; ExTexasRedhead; Bob Ireland; Bizzy Bugz; oswegodeee; ...
Obama is brazenly coming out with the pure communist diktat, now....unabashed, unashamed, unadulterated, un-American commie ideology.

This thug with a manicure has nothing to lose.....and as a lame duck he's doubling-down to motivate and solidify his revolulutionary base for the midterm election.

Now he's inciting labor unrest and strikes along with the racial tension he's been promoting all along.....not to mention the ever-present class warfare propaganda.

He's a smiling but dangerous psychopath like Richard Widmark playing Tommy Udo in "Kiss of Death".

He's intent on ruling by fiat, he's surrounded by a marxist palace guard.....he's travelling the country setting the stage for rioting and street warfare......and he's actually out of our control because he's unchecked by any determined opposition or Justice Department reins.

What's happening in our country is like watching that Spanish train derailment video making the rounds.

Leni

46 posted on 07/30/2013 5:02:03 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: a fool in paradise

It is not a pay gap it is a work gap. Those not making money are unwilling to work for it.


47 posted on 07/30/2013 5:02:16 AM PDT by edcoil (Something wonderful is going to happen today!)
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To: onyx
At what point do we have “Defacto Communism”?
48 posted on 07/30/2013 5:04:16 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: a fool in paradise

Ayn Rand was a prophet.


49 posted on 07/30/2013 5:05:23 AM PDT by wbill
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To: onyx

Inequality pf pay results from inequality of ability that is mostly the result if inequality if initiative.

If more pay is desired then more work is required. Work is leveraged by education. One hours work by a Physician or civil Engineer is leveraged by the work required to learn the trade


50 posted on 07/30/2013 5:09:15 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: onyx

The “pay gap” or “income equality” is only morally wrong in cases of equal production. For instance:

Suppose I own a coal mine. I hire two guys to dig coal for me. One guy is weak and lazy and only digs up a ton a day. The second guy is strong and hard-working and digs up 2 tons a day. What would be fair—paying them the same amount (thus eliminating “income inequality”) or paying them according to their output?

Suppose I hire a third guy who is of a scientific bent and who invents a digging machine that can extract 100 tons of coal a day. He had worked for years developing the machine, which cost him a great deal of money to manufacture. By employing his machine in my coal mine, I can generate profits equal to that of 100 times that of my slow worker, or 50 times that of my fast worker. Is it “fair” if I pay the inventor the same amount that I pay digger one or digger two? Or is the “pay gap” that would occur if I pay the inventor an amount proportionate to his production unfair?

Liberals try to answer hypotheticals like this by begging the question and presuming that everyone is equal. That is, we all contribute equally, so we all should be paid equally. It’s called socialism. It has never worked and never will. With equal pay, digger two will slow down until he reaches the output level of digger one. And the inventor would never risk his time and capital to make a device for which he would never be compensated.


51 posted on 07/30/2013 5:15:42 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: onyx
"President Obama is changing gears on the economy"

From neutral to reverse.

52 posted on 07/30/2013 5:17:08 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: onyx

maybe to even things out obama needs to appoint more po’ folks as ambassadors and give others cush govt loans to start fake solar energy companies


53 posted on 07/30/2013 5:17:36 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: DH

> Don’t get mad at Obama. You have to realize that his calling in life is as a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER. In other words, a troublemaker.

I would think the more appropriate term would be Community Divider


54 posted on 07/30/2013 5:21:46 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: onyx

Obama’s lying and confusing nominal income with real income. Worse, he’s ignoring all the good economic data and analysis that proves the origin of the “pay gap”.

1. Women who leave to become mothers fall behind, while those same dads work even harder to earn more.

2. The government education system has utterly failed the people most vulnerable to pay reductions and perishable skills.

3. Local licensing and permitting schemes, plus the too high minimum wage, cause massive unemployment and skills deterioration.

4. Toss in a too rich welfare system and viola - income inequality.


55 posted on 07/30/2013 5:26:20 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: onyx
Let's raise the minimum wage and lower the maximum wage so that everyone gets a million dollars per year.
Sounds great, right? Luxury lifestyle for everyone.

But if you don't have a job, let's give you welfare at the tune of $999,999.00 a year.

Two exercises for the reader:
1. Guess who will be the first to cry UNFAIR!!!
2. Ponder why such an economic arrangement won't work for very long.

56 posted on 07/30/2013 5:34:15 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: savedbygrace

More specifically fascist. It was designed by Corrado Gini to prove the need for fascism. It’s also how democrats and Obama are using it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrado_Gini

There is no reason ever to want income equality. At that level we’re all at subsistence. Think about it.


57 posted on 07/30/2013 5:37:04 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: exDemMom

Spot on. When you see a diminishing middle class the cause is socialism. It destroys the nascent poor that are moving toward middle class status, drives up or down the middle class, and politicizes wealth. Its goal is to trap the classes permanently.

Socialism is just feudalism without the sword play.


58 posted on 07/30/2013 5:39:02 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: onyx

Because to a leftist, a teenager who would rather be playing video games, an engineer with a 4 year degree and a natural drive to make things work, and a CEO with a demonstrated ability to lead a company of tens of thousands to prosperity and profitability ... they are all worth the same, to the leftist. As people, yes. To the business community they are worlds apart.


59 posted on 07/30/2013 5:42:17 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: GeronL

Since leftists reject any/the objective basis for morals and right and wrong,

they should be told that we dismiss their morality because it is just a human opinion with no more weight than anyone else’s opinion, either contemporarily or historically.

However, our basis for morality IS objective and unchanging, it IS from God (logically provable), and it IS easily discernible with a bit of reading.


60 posted on 07/30/2013 5:46:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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