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Due to annoying family members I hit 3 court buildings in one day last week. To get into all of them involved emptying pockets and going through a metal detector, one of them I emptied my pockets into a locker and THEY kept the key. That’s how it works and if you don’t like it too bad. I’ve done jury duty in 2 of those buildings in the 90s, same drill back then. When the people in charge of a building decide it’s a security zone then it’s a security zone and you’re going to be searched to go in, and nobody has ever successfully challenged that as a rights violation.


40 posted on 07/30/2013 2:59:52 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: discostu
Due to annoying family members I hit 3 court buildings in one day last week. To get into all of them involved emptying pockets and going through a metal detector, one of them I emptied my pockets into a locker and THEY kept the key. That’s how it works and if you don’t like it too bad. I’ve done jury duty in 2 of those buildings in the 90s, same drill back then. When the people in charge of a building decide it’s a security zone then it’s a security zone and you’re going to be searched to go in, and nobody has ever successfully challenged that as a rights violation.

No, security does not triumph over the law. In my state, New Mexico, the State Constitution says the following:

New Mexico Constitution, Art II, Sec. 6. [Right to bear arms.]
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms.

This means that a no weapons, violators will be prosecuted sign on the courthouse is blatantly stating (a) that the the court does not respect the Constitution, and (b) therefore does not respect the law either.

Your state, Arizona, says the following:

AZ Constitution, Art 2, Section 26.
The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.
and is likely at least a case of forgery,
13-2002. Forgery; classification
A. A person commits forgery if, with intent to defraud, the person:
     1. Falsely makes, completes or alters a written instrument; or
     2. Knowingly possesses a forged instrument; or
     3. Offers or presents, whether accepted or not, a forged instrument or one that contains false information.
B. The possession of five or more forged instruments may give rise to an inference that the instruments are possessed with an intent to defraud.
C. Forgery is a class 4 felony, except that if the forged instrument is used in connection with the purchase, lease or renting of a dwelling that is used as a drop house, it is a class 3 felony. For the purposes of this subsection, "drop house" means property that is used to facilitate smuggling pursuant to section 13-2319.
where written interment is defined as:
12. "Written instrument" means either:
(a) Any paper, document or other instrument that contains written or printed matter or its equivalent.
(b) Any token, stamp, seal, badge, trademark, graphical image, access device or other evidence or symbol of value, right, privilege or identification.
because other instrument includes signage.
41 posted on 07/30/2013 3:31:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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