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To: OneWingedShark

Well then my recommendation is to go be a test case, sue them for unlawful search and seizure and see what happens. Of course we all know what’s going to happen, you’ll lose, because they aren’t trumping the law, they are APPLYING the law. That law does not mean what you’re trying to make it mean. It means you can own guns, and carry them in unregulated areas, but owners of buildings (which includes the government) are free to make areas gun free. Some states (your neighbor TX) require a specific notice be posted, but that’s the only functional limitation. Your space, your rules, people who don’t like it don’t have to come. It’s been very standard in this country for multiple decades for government buildings to limit who can and can’t be armed, and the federal government has generally been the most restrictive.

Here’s some reading, they’re called administrative searches:
http://www.regent.edu/acad/schlaw/student_life/studentorgs/lawreview/docs/issues/v5/5RegentULRev215.pdf

And they’re legal, and constitutional, though often times what they take during them isn’t usable as evidence, but they can still seize it, and most importantly they can still search you to bar it from the building.


42 posted on 07/30/2013 3:47:21 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: discostu
Well then my recommendation is to go be a test case, sue them for unlawful search and seizure and see what happens.

I've thought about it.

Of course we all know what’s going to happen, you’ll lose, because they aren’t trumping the law, they are APPLYING the law.

No, they aren't; the NM constitution that I pointed out flatly prohibits any law from abridging the citizen's right to keep and bear arms for his own defense. So if there's a law on the books about it (which there isn't; I looked) it would be null and void according to the State's constitution.

That law does not mean what you’re trying to make it mean. It means you can own guns, and carry them in unregulated areas, but owners of buildings (which includes the government) are free to make areas gun free.

No; it says that there are limits to laws, and one is that there is no valid law which abridges the citizen's right to keep and bear arms.

Your space, your rules, people who don’t like it don’t have to come.

What do you think the Constitution is? It's the rules for the government! They are to be bound thereby, not exempt under words like rules or administration.

It’s been very standard in this country for multiple decades for government buildings to limit who can and can’t be armed, and the federal government has generally been the most restrictive.

And I showed you that my state's constitution prohibits such.

Here’s some reading, they’re called administrative searches
And they’re legal, and constitutional, though often times what they take during them isn’t usable as evidence, but they can still seize it, and most importantly they can still search you to bar it from the building.

They might be legal, but they are unlawful. (Huge difference between the two.)

49 posted on 07/30/2013 5:49:56 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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