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To: Alter Kaker

OK let me reword that.

Not rebelled. But the Jewish voters in America seem overwhelmingly to be hard-core Democrats.

Not the ones here, but overwhelmingly in America, a very significant number of Jews are Democrats.

Overwhelmingly.

I get quite frustrated, with Jewish tendency to support the left.

It is very consistent.


18 posted on 07/30/2013 7:51:08 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
So jews will vote 69-31 for the most liberal politicians rather than 75-25..

It's hard to see, because most of the liberal Jews today are anti-religious, and they vote. But they're old, and have no grandchildren. That number of 74 percent of children among New York Jewry being Orthodox or Hasidic. That's a world-changing number. The Orthodox are a whole 'nother smoke.

The demographic habit decimating liberal Jews is doing the same thing among liberal Protestants, Catholics, and atheists. They don't have children. They grow old and don't leave a trace.

20 posted on 07/30/2013 8:06:18 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
OK let me reword that. Not rebelled.

No, actually I won't let you reword that. Not only did you speak in error, but you did so in a patently offensive manner that seems to question the "Americanness" of Jews, despite the fact that Jews have lived in America since before its founding and served it honorably in every war since the Revolution.

Not the ones here, but overwhelmingly in America, a very significant number of Jews are Democrats.

So what? Many Jews are conservative Republicans too. It's a free country, and one of the freedoms we cherish is the freedom to vote for whatever damn fool you want to. If some Jews want to vote for dumb candidates, we can argue with them but that's their right. What's not ok is questioning their citizenship or loyalty to the country on the basis of their religion.

23 posted on 07/30/2013 10:00:32 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
OK let me reword that.

Not rebelled. But the Jewish voters in America seem overwhelmingly to be hard-core Democrats.

Not the ones here, but overwhelmingly in America, a very significant number of Jews are Democrats.

Overwhelmingly.

I get quite frustrated, with Jewish tendency to support the left.

It is very consistent.

The Democrats can have the non-Orthodox Jews so far as I'm concerned. It's the Orthodox I want to support us.

There are two reasons for the continuing support of Democrats among Orthodox (and even "ultra"-Orthodox) Jews. One is that they tend to live in cities run exclusively by liberal Democrats and have to stay in the good graces of whoever is in power. And as I said earlier, though they essentially live Theocratic lifestyles, they are very insular. There are those who point out what a public desecration of G-d's Name supporting Democrats is, but there is such a thing as historical inertia.

The Democrats traditionally are the party not only of Jews, but of large numbers of ethnic communities: Catholics, Irish, Italians, Slavs, Greeks, you-name-it. "Blacksandhispanics" are just the latest addition (the Dems traded grudge-bearing white Southerners for the Blacks).

I hope this helps to explain things in some way.

37 posted on 07/31/2013 1:36:15 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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