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To: maica
This is a very misleading statement. Sounds like a version of the hockey stick view of earth temperatures.

Nonsense. First, I suggest you go back to the link and read the entire press release from the Bureau of the Census. Trying to dismiss factual data sounds more like the way a liberal prefers to discuss issues. The press release puts the data projections in context. Population projections are based on data in much the same way as actuaries develop their projections. The data from the full census every ten years plus the annual community survey data have provided some very accurate projections over the years unlike those who asscribe global warming primarily to human beings.

Since this country started having European immigration in the 1600s, the expansion has happened with both native-born and immigrant residents. This census report would have us believe that immigration was a minor factor before 1850!

What nonsense. The statement, This scenario would mark the first time that natural increase was not the leading cause of population increase since at least 1850, when the census began collecting information about residents' country of birth indicates clearly that the 1850 date is used because that is when the census bureau started collecting information about a residents' country of birth. It never said it was a minor factor before that date.

What we do know is that it has never been the case since 1850 that immigration exceeded natural increase (births minus deaths) until the present day. If it happens between 2027 and 2038 as projected based on existing data and immigration policies, then it would be a huge occurrence. And if the McRubio-Schumer bill or anything like it passes, this will happen much sooner since the bill will bring in 33 million new permanent immigrants over the next ten years, which is more than the past 40 years combined. And add to that a doubling of the guest worker program that will double the 700,000 temporary work visas issued annually now.

Come on! It doesn't pass the smell test. I spend a lot of time on genealogy and family history research, and know that America has always had a large portion of its population growth because of people coming here to settle.

In my post #49 I provided a link to an article I wrote recently on the immigration issue. Whether you are aware of it or not, we have experienced over the past 40 years one of the greatest mass migrations in human history. We now have 40 million foreign-born in this country (a conservative figure). In 1970 one out of 21 was foreign born; today it is one in 8, the highest it has been in 90 years! And in less than a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history. The last two decades have been the highest two in our history in terms of numbers. Something very, very significant has been happening and most Americans are simply unaware of it.

I spend a lot of time on genealogy and family history research, and know that America has always had a large portion of its population growth because of people coming here to settle.

I have been working on this issue for the last 7 years. The immigration of the past is very different from what is happening today. As a result of the immigration act of 1965, the vast majority of our immigrants now come from the Third World. 87% of the legal immigrants are minorities as classified by the USG. Our immigration polices are bringing in primarily the poor and uneducated--not the skills we need to be competitive in the global economy. And do we really need 1.2 million legal immigrants every year when 20 million Americans are unemployed or underemployed? Immigrants use welfare programs to a much greater degree than the native born. They are helping to destroy our social safety net.

America needs to wake up to the facts about immigration. We prefer to romanticize it rather than analyzing its impact on our country. Legal immigration is more of a problem than illegal immigration. Demography is destiny.

130 posted on 08/04/2013 2:02:55 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Great stuff once again kabar.

As i have commented on in the past our immigration policy is so biased it makes one wonder if anyone still cares about the welfare of the entire country or not.

When you have huge percentage of immigrants coming in who take from the country rather than give to the country and the country is already in fiscal decline its a formula for disaster.

Billions around the world would come to the US if they had the chance.

To pick only those who illegally get here as the winners to get citizenship and ignore those who could help the country from all over the world is ignorant and stupid and puts the country in decline. Exactly what the regime wants.

134 posted on 08/04/2013 3:00:52 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: kabar
In 1970 one out of 21 was foreign born; today it is one in 8, the highest it has been in 90 years! And in less than a decade it will be one in 7, the highest in our history.

I just looked at the census website and saw that the count for the 2010 census was 308,745,538.

Are you seriously telling me that 12% of that number were not born in the US?

12% = 38.5million

That is a selective interpretation of immigration numbers.
Also look at the numbers for the late nineteenth century.
1880 census: 50,189,22209
1890 census: 62,947,714
Approximately 5 million immigrants between 1881 and 1890 meant that almost one in ten residents was an immigrant in that decade.

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All of this discussion does not take away from the fact that our system of immigration is seriously broken, and has been for at least 3 decades. I just don't like anyone using selective stats to project a desired result.

138 posted on 08/04/2013 3:37:16 PM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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To: kabar
In my post #49 I provided a link to an article I wrote recently on the immigration issue. Whether you are aware of it or not, we have experienced over the past 40 years one of the greatest mass migrations in human history. We now have 40 million foreign-born in this country (a conservative figure). In 1970 one out of 21 was foreign born; today it is one in 8, the highest it has been in 90 years!

I am very aware of this fact. Yet you disputed my comment that our immigration system is broken and has been for at least 3 generations.

And do we really need 1.2 million legal immigrants every year when 20 million Americans are unemployed or underemployed? Immigrants use welfare programs to a much greater degree than the native born. They are helping to destroy our social safety net.

America needs to wake up to the facts about immigration. We prefer to romanticize it rather than analyzing its impact on our country. Legal immigration is more of a problem than illegal immigration. Demography is destiny.

No argument with your final statement. Your penultimate sentence is shocking. Perhaps you could consider that the one million legal immigrants invited to become citizens every year are replacements for the one million abortions of potential native-born citizens.

Why do you dismiss the illegal immigration as being less of a problem? Having had a career in the state dept, which has the task of authorizing visas to foreigners, I would have thought that people sneaking in with minimal negative consequences, would have really irritated you. Do you leave your own doors unlocked?

146 posted on 08/05/2013 7:00:44 AM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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