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Keystone Oil May Go To Europe
chrissstreetandcompany.com ^ | Aug. 4, 2013 | Chriss W. Street

Posted on 08/05/2013 6:53:13 AM PDT by Texas Eagle

Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Friday contradicted President Barack Obama’s dismissal of the job-creation potential of the proposed Keystone XL Pipeline, saying the project is important both for jobs and for energy security. His comments follow TransCanada Corporation’s announcement that as an alternative, the company is moving forward with the $12 billion Energy East Pipeline project, which would send over a million barrels per day of oil across Canada east to New Brunswick, where a multi-billion deep-water port would be constructed. Given that the U.S. State Department confirmed America would have gained tens of thousands of permanent high paying jobs and domestic oil security is in our nation’s vital security interests, President Obama may have just convinced Canada that trying to do business with the United States is a bad idea.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: keystone; oil; pipeline
Full article: Keystone Oil May Go To Europe
1 posted on 08/05/2013 6:53:13 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle

If we are going to have riots it should be over the thousands of jobs and billions of dollars Obama is keeping from us.

I believe all agencies signed off on the pipeline, but we are being harmed by a leftist idiot. Incredible.

Oh and thanks republicans, are you even awake?


2 posted on 08/05/2013 6:59:27 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams
If we are going to have riots it should be over the thousands of jobs and billions of dollars Obama is keeping from us.

Hence the Obamaphones, food stamps, welfare, etc.

3 posted on 08/05/2013 7:01:55 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

So thousands of union jobs will be lost just because they put this un-American socialist in office for the second time. It serves them right. Now if TX, LA, and OK would just turn off the pipelines to the coasts this winter......


4 posted on 08/05/2013 7:03:35 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee
Yeah, I know. That's the part that gets me. The actual construction of the pipeline would increase Union employment.

But, like in North Dakota, the boom of ancillary non-union jobs would dwarf the union jobs.

5 posted on 08/05/2013 7:10:59 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: thackney

Ping.


6 posted on 08/05/2013 7:13:43 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

and trains are falling off the tracks all over the US


7 posted on 08/05/2013 7:46:10 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Army Air Corps
Canada currently imports 700,000 BPD for their east coast refineries. It would take a while before surplus crude oil flow rates exceed that requirement to free up additional exports.

And that would be a very expensive pipeline to reach all the way to that far coast.

I have doubts it would justify costs over existing rail to midwest refineries from the blue portions of the pipeline shown below.

What becomes of the empty pipelines? TransCanada's mainline conversion to oil
http://www.ogfj.com/articles/2013/05/what-becomes-of-the-empty-pipelines-transcanadas-mainline-conver.html

8 posted on 08/05/2013 7:47:51 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Texas Eagle
"...the U.S. State Department confirmed America would have gained tens of thousands of permanent high paying jobs...

Gee didn't Obozo just tell us that only 50 permanent jobs would result from Keystone? Of course the media would never report that Obama is lying to us on a daily basis.

9 posted on 08/05/2013 7:50:53 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ
Gee didn't Obozo just tell us that only 50 permanent jobs would result from Keystone?

Yes. This is a rhetorical device known as "lying". Or, to put it more delicately, "pulling figures out his ass".

Of course you're right that his Press Corpse isn't going to call him on it.

10 posted on 08/05/2013 7:54:37 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: The Great RJ

The Alaska Pipeline with a similar length, few pump stations but a harsher climate and much more above ground sections employ’s 800 direct employees and typically 1,000 contract workers. That does not include the suppliers and work orders for equipment and material ordered for the operations and maintenance.


11 posted on 08/05/2013 7:56:06 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: The Great RJ

Sorry, forgot the link:

http://www.alyeska-pipe.com/assets/uploads/pagestructure/NewsCenter_MediaResources_FactSheets_Entries/635078372894251917_2013AlyeskaTAPSFactBook.pdf


12 posted on 08/05/2013 7:58:05 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
From your link

CONSTRUCTION, Workforce:
• Minority hire: Ranged from 14 percent to 19 percent.
• Peak, contractors only: 21,600.
• Peak, total: 28,072 in October 1975 (Alyeska employees and contractors).
• Total for project: 70,000 approximately (1969-1977).
• Women: Ranged from 5 percent to 10 percent.


For 8 years it employed 70,000+ people. There was also a huge entrepreneurial opportunity during construction from nearby towns. Prostitution was a thriving opportunity.

Obama is full of shi'ite. He purposely wants people out of work...makes them pliable.

13 posted on 08/05/2013 11:11:39 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Army Air Corps

TransCanada to face hurdles in quest for eastern pipeline
http://fuelfix.com/blog/2013/08/06/transcanada-to-face-hurdles-in-quest-for-eastern-pipeline/

Environmental groups and native leaders may push to block the pipeline, emboldened by the work of Keystone XL opponents who’ve fought that project for more than four years. The 4,400 kilometer (2,734 mile) Energy East line would need support from provincial governments in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec and New Brunswick.

Some of the strongest opposition will be in Quebec, said political scientist Peter Stoett. The government of Premier Pauline Marois has halted natural gas exploration by hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, while crews continue to clean up the disaster in Lac-Megantic, where a runaway train filled with crude exploded in the center of town, killing 47 people last month.

“We can expect a serious debate to emerge in Quebec over this,” said Stoett, director of the Loyola Sustainability Research Centre and professor of political science at Montreal’s Concordia University, in an e-mail. “The train tragedy might increase support for pipelines in some places, but overall my impression is that it will further deepen water-rich Quebec’s concerns about crude in general.” The province produces much of its energy through hydro-electricity.


14 posted on 08/06/2013 5:24:00 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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