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To: SeekAndFind
1. Why does Paul Ryan want to replace Obamacare with anything? It's been established the feds shouldn't be involved.

2. I'll take Marc Rubio over Paul Ryan, anyday (if I had to choose). Maybe Rubio can be educated about how crucial it is to rid the US of invaders. Ryan's beyond hope, just putting "lipstick on the pig", the pig being all of Obama's policies.

20 posted on 08/05/2013 8:25:22 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
Why does Paul Ryan want to replace Obamacare with anything? It's been established the feds shouldn't be involved.

Time for a third party. The standard bearers of the republican party all like to play along with democrats and big govt. A brief history as I recall.

Eisenhower: First R since New Deal. Did not attempt to dismantle big govt.

Nixon: Next candidate and future president. As president he did price controls, passed EPA and other big govt programs.

Barry Goldwater: Real conservative. He got over half the delegates for the R nomination, but because some delegates weren't legally bound to Goldwater, there was a small chance to defeat him at the convention. And that is what the Rockefeller Republicans tried to do. They didn't have a good chance of success and failed to replace Goldwater. But they certainly helped the left paint him as some sort of Kook candidate. I doubt the liberal republican wing was sad to see him lose.

Ford: Moderate republican. Duh. Reagan tried to unseat him, but the machine was too powerful.

Reagan: Like Goldwater, a real conservative. He had to fight tooth and nail to beat the forces that destroyed Goldwater.

GH Bush: He ran on the campaign of a KINDER AND GENTLER country. I guess he wasn't satisfied running as an extension of the Reagan years. You know the tax cuts and best economic growth the country had seen since the Great Depression. You know, how Reagan restored America's strength around the world and had communism on the ropes. He ended up raising taxes and became a one-term president.

Dole: A real genius for talking about himself in the third person saying "I'm Bob Dole." Another wishy washy moderate.

GW Bush. He talked about compassionate conservatism running in 2000. After he won and had both houses of congress, a first since FDR, the conservative movement had cause to believe real change could be made. Instead of say making govt smaller and less intrusive, the government expanded "big time." He federalized education, created the DHS and added a new entitlement for old people just to think a few big govt ideas that came about on his watch.

Juan McCain. RINO ...nuff said

Romney. He invented the blueprint for Obamacare and was the least conservative candidate in the primary (right?). But he had the liberal wing and money behind him from the start. Guess that is all you need to ramrod your candidate over the objections of the rank and file. He got even fewer votes than Juan McCain if memory serves.

So there is my analysis of the alternative to the Democrat Party since the New Deal. On a national level we can choose from some tax and spend democrat, or some pro-business republican who usually ends up taxing and spending. Maybe not as much as a democrat. He might even say he doesn't like it. But with the exception of Reagan, every president has made/enabled govt to grow.
34 posted on 08/05/2013 9:07:24 AM PDT by BJ1
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