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Illinois Business Owner Fined $31,000 For Posting Political Sign Inside Her Sandwich Shop
Gateway Pundit ^ | August 7, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 08/07/2013 6:20:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A Belleville, Illinois business owner was fined $31,000 for posting a political sign inside her sandwich shop.

Dianne Rogge, the owner of Pour Haus, is charged $500 every day she leaves the sign up in her shop.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Sandwich shop owner sues City of Belleville for fines over posted sign

A Metro East storefront is now at the center of a federal lawsuit after city officials told the owner a posted sign was illegal. view full article

KMOV reported:

A Metro East storefront is now at the center of a federal lawsuit after city officials told the owner a posted sign was illegal.

The owner of Pour Haus is suing the City of Belleville after officials told her to take down a sign that sarcastically thanks the city for turning down the her request for tax breaks to start up a sandwich shop.

“You’re allowed to put political statements anywhere you want and this is my business. It’s inside, it follows the sign ordinance, and therefore I’m not breaking any laws. You cannot stomp all over the constitution; Belleville or anybody else,” Dianne Rogge, the owner of Pour Haus, said.

Rogge told News 4, the City of Belleville has fined her $500 every day the sign stays up. The sign was placed in the storefront window on June 5; her fine is up to $31,000.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; fascism; illinois

1 posted on 08/07/2013 6:20:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let me guess, the sign was not pro Obama?


2 posted on 08/07/2013 6:22:41 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Deprivation of rights under color of law - federal felony.

Shop owner should contact the FBI and US attorney.


3 posted on 08/07/2013 6:23:57 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Small town brownshirts


4 posted on 08/07/2013 6:25:03 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: TruthWillWin

Let me guess, you didn’t read the excerpt?


5 posted on 08/07/2013 6:25:08 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Triple

Treble damages too.


6 posted on 08/07/2013 6:25:10 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: TruthWillWin

Worse...she insulted the City Fathers for not giving her a tax break. Thou shalt not insult your betters.


7 posted on 08/07/2013 6:25:15 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In a word, silly...

She'll mop the floor with them.


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8 posted on 08/07/2013 6:25:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Little Nazis


9 posted on 08/07/2013 6:26:31 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10 posted on 08/07/2013 6:27:19 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Triple

Those people who work for Eric Holder? Yeah, that’ll work out great.


11 posted on 08/07/2013 6:27:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good for her. I will send her 100.00 to help pay for her fine. Anybody else in. Lets pay it forward.


12 posted on 08/07/2013 6:29:00 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"she'll mop the floor with them"

In a sane world. I am never surprised anymore when corruption and evil win. I am very down on our current society, but I do celebrate when the good guys win. I hope she is a able to clean their clocks.

13 posted on 08/07/2013 6:30:43 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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She’s complaining about taxes “No TIFF for us...TKS B’ville”

Seems she is slamming the arrogant ruling class Nazi’s running the local government there.

By the tone of her voice, she aint backing down from the nasty government Nazis...


14 posted on 08/07/2013 6:31:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I am in total agreement with you.


15 posted on 08/07/2013 6:31:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: ncfool

She better get that sign down before the SWAT group comes in with ICE and the ATF alongside some drone. She DARED to defy the rules. There is no freedom of speech. WHERE does one get this idea...not in THIS America.


16 posted on 08/07/2013 6:32:18 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She was turned down for ‘tax increment financing’?
Why should everyone else subsidize her business?


17 posted on 08/07/2013 6:33:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They aren’t *all* crooked. Are they?


18 posted on 08/07/2013 6:33:59 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Sounds like New York State (maybe other places), it is against the law to post how much of the cost of a gallon of gasoline is taxes.


19 posted on 08/07/2013 6:37:46 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: tumblindice

She wanted to pay less taxes?

BTW, isn’t the issue here the city Nazi’s telling her she is not allowed to put up a sign of her choice in her own business?


20 posted on 08/07/2013 6:40:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

That’s what the sign has on it: “No TIF For Us.”


21 posted on 08/07/2013 6:42:10 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

Isn’t the issue here the city Nazi’s telling her she is not allowed to put up a sign of her choice in her own business???


22 posted on 08/07/2013 6:42:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tumblindice

A TIF is a horrible thing!


23 posted on 08/07/2013 6:43:30 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: tumblindice
She was turned down for ‘tax increment financing’? Why should everyone else subsidize her business?

I confess that I don't know what "tax increment financing" is. But the substance of the issue is not the point.

The point is that she has a right to put up the sign in her own establishment, and if the city council doesn't like it, they can go pound sand and eat somewhere else. It's the fine that is the issue.

24 posted on 08/07/2013 6:43:33 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is great advertising for her new business.


25 posted on 08/07/2013 6:45:22 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: ncfool
Good for her. I will send her 100.00 to help pay for her fine. Anybody else in. Lets pay it forward.

I won't send her a dime to pay the fine.

Where can I send money to fight the fine?

26 posted on 08/07/2013 6:46:41 PM PDT by null and void ( Ignorance and arrogance are a deadly combination.)
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To: rovenstinez
She better get that sign down before the SWAT group comes in with ICE and the ATF alongside some drone. She DARED to defy the rules. There is no freedom of speech. WHERE does one get this idea...not in THIS America.

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27 posted on 08/07/2013 6:47:10 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: TruthWillWin

You guess before you clicked. I know I did. But we’re wrong. She’s POed she didn’t get tax breaks to set up her business in the town. While I want taxes of every stripe cut, I’m not sure I agree with her on the sentiment of the sign. Why should she get a break Joe’s Plumbing down the street doesn’t get?

That said, I don’t see how a town can fine her for speech that is obviously political. She’s going out on the > $31K limb because she knows she’ll win in the end.


28 posted on 08/07/2013 6:56:12 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
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To: dragnet2; Maceman

Yes, it is a different issue.
Sign restrictions in county and municipal zoning ordinances are consistently upheld by courts as reasonable exercises of the police power when applied o protect the public health, safety and welfare. They will even use as a basis: ‘aesthetics.’
Back to the TIF, all I’m saying is that maybe she doesn’t deserve a spot towards the end of Reason magazine if her response to the notice of Ordinance violation is similar to her application for a moratorium on her own property taxes while the surrounding ‘benefit district’ gets their taxes goosed.


29 posted on 08/07/2013 6:58:21 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Triple

You really think Holder’s people will help her? Come on. Look at her picture.


30 posted on 08/07/2013 6:59:42 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: ncfool

I will send her 100.00 to help pay for her fine. Anybody else in. Lets pay it forward.


A fool and his money are soon parted!....
The last thing local, state and federal givernment needs is more money..


31 posted on 08/07/2013 7:10:21 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Probably need to get a constitutional lawyer on it, unfortunately, there are none licensed in Illinois (His Arrogance lost his license, but it is immaterial anyway because he taught it but never read or understood it). Best bet is to burn it down, collect the insurance and move to a red state.


32 posted on 08/07/2013 7:22:39 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe the Dept of Just Us can look into how her civil rights were violated.


33 posted on 08/07/2013 7:26:45 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When there is no penalty for failure, failures proliferate." George F. Will)
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To: GeronL
A TIF is a horrible thing!

I dunno... not sure that as an entity a TIF is a horrible thing, but I have seen some tiff's that were of questionable quality and content...

But why would the city be into giving her a tagged image file anyway?

OK, I'll move on now... ;-)

34 posted on 08/07/2013 7:26:48 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stag Brewing at Belleville was one of my old customers way, way back.

I ran into a guy the other day who mentioned he had a pair of Stag kegs at his wedding in St. Louis.


35 posted on 08/07/2013 7:35:52 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Triple

You really think holder would do anything?


36 posted on 08/07/2013 7:41:21 PM PDT by sport
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To: tumblindice
Sign restrictions in county and municipal zoning ordinances are consistently upheld by courts as reasonable exercises of the police

Ya mean corrupt courts like Nelson's court and corrupt govenrment prosecutors like Angela Corey?....Those courts? Are you referring to corrupt city governments like Chicago?

Do you support govenrment telling this woman what kind of sign she can put up within her own private businesses?

37 posted on 08/07/2013 7:44:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


38 posted on 08/07/2013 8:05:35 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's a penalty...it's a tax...sounds like a case for Roberts to decide.
39 posted on 08/07/2013 8:12:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s the contact information for the various officials in Belleville, IL.
http://www.belleville.net/directory/


40 posted on 08/07/2013 8:18:03 PM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Impeachment File on Communist, Benghazi Coward “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, currently a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


41 posted on 08/07/2013 8:22:14 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

TIF’s are horribly abused in Texas, so I am very biased


42 posted on 08/07/2013 8:30:06 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: FreeAtlanta; DoughtyOne
"she'll mop the floor with them"

If she does, she'll be sorry.

She'll never get into the corners.

(Emo Philips)

43 posted on 08/07/2013 9:40:29 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

just because we may not be on her side regarding the tif issue, that doesn’t mean we must support government trampling over her right to voice her displeasure with local government in her own shop.

while i may not be for a tif break for another sandwich shop, i am on her side as far as her fighting against government trying to silence a person’s free speech rights against the government. i hope they sue and win their case so it sets up case law precedents aganst this crap.


44 posted on 08/07/2013 9:49:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

:^)


45 posted on 08/08/2013 1:37:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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