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Remembering When We Were Strong: Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the Moral Necessity of a Nuclear Strike
National Review Online ^ | August 8, 2013 | David French

Posted on 08/08/2013 11:15:14 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/08/2013 11:15:14 PM PDT by neverdem
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2 posted on 08/08/2013 11:20:08 PM PDT by South40
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The Nation Calls the Bombing of Hiroshima ‘Terrorism’
http://www.nationalreview.com/media-blog/355268/nation-calls-bombing-hiroshima-terrorism-greg-pollowitz


3 posted on 08/08/2013 11:24:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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I always found the most interesting part of those two nuclear bombings the fact that we experimented with uranium on Hiroshima and plutonium on Nagasaki. They were two differently fueled atom bombs (”Little Boy and “Fat Man”). One result I remember reading about in the ‘70s was that surviving citizens of Hiroshima had a far higher incidence of leukemia than the survivors in Nagasaki.


4 posted on 08/08/2013 11:24:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The terrorist, Democrat Harry S. Truman.


5 posted on 08/08/2013 11:28:26 PM PDT by South40
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“I think one man is just as good as another so long as he’s honest and decent and not a n****r or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a white man from dust, a n****r from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman.” ~Harry Truman, age 27, in a letter to his future wife.


6 posted on 08/08/2013 11:34:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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Abraham Lincoln Quote

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
~ Abraham Lincoln -- Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858

7 posted on 08/08/2013 11:41:13 PM PDT by South40
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8 posted on 08/08/2013 11:47:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Does so
Japan's largest Christian community was in Nagasaki. :(

Japanese-Christian soldiers included stealthy acts of kindness towards Allied POWs. (A scarce commodity in WWII).

9 posted on 08/08/2013 11:59:05 PM PDT by Does so (Progressives Don't Know the Meaning of INFRINGED...)
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To: neverdem
Food stamps and single-payer health care aren’t firewalls against evil, and we’re fools if we entertain that belief.

Neither is the building of roads and schools in the $#!+hole of Afghanistan....

10 posted on 08/09/2013 12:24:24 AM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: Lancey Howard

“I always found the most interesting part of those two nuclear bombings the fact that we experimented with uranium on Hiroshima and plutonium on Nagasaki. They were two differently fueled atom bombs (”Little Boy and “Fat Man”).”

Two types of atomic bombs were used simply as a matter of expediency. All other considerations were no more than opportunistic afterthoughts. When the Unitedd States embarked upon its development of a nuclear weapon, the decision was made to attempt the production of two different types of bomb grade fissionable nuclear material: uranium and plutonium. This decision was made in the hope that if one of the fissionable materials could not be made available and be fashioned into a working atomic bomb, then perhaps the other could be. In the end, both fissionable bombs were made a reality at virtually the same time, but there was one important difference. The bomb grade fissionable material was in much too little supply to fashion more than one or a few atomic bombs before the end of 1945 or the scheduled amphibious invasions of the japanese Home Islands in Spring 1946. The more of this uranium used to produce uranium bombs meant fewer plutonium bombs in the required time schedule. This resulted in the decision to use the prototype uranium bomb core on a Japanese target, while the first plutonium core was used to test the bomb design at Alamagordo, and the second plutonium core on the second Japanese target. A third plutonium core was readied for another attack upon a Japanese target later in August. Each of the remaining months in 1945 would have brought an increasing number of plutonium cores available for use until Japan either surrendered or the invasion of Japan ended the nuclear bombardment.

The plutonium bomb became the atomic bomb of choice because more of the plutonium cores could be produced at a faster rate. It also helped that the explosive yield was superior. It was only after some months and years had passed that the radiological studies discovered the radiation effects were considerably worse than had been anticipated. This wqas in the day and age when shoe stores and departments were using X-ray machines to X-ray customers’ feet to sell shoes to customers by showing how the feet looked inside the shoes being sold.

It should also be remembered how Japan also had two competing atomic bomb development programs, one for the Army and one for the Navy. Additonally, Japan had developed and considered using other eapons of mass destruction against the Continental United States. The largest submarines built before the advent of nuclear submarines about fifteen years later were constructed to carry weapons of mass destruction against American targets. Only the abrupt end of the war prevented them from reaching their intended targets.


11 posted on 08/09/2013 12:25:48 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: South40
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

~ Abraham Lincoln -- Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858

Creepy ass cracker....

12 posted on 08/09/2013 12:27:02 AM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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13 posted on 08/09/2013 12:29:46 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Does so

Nagasaki became the actual target of the second attack because the primary target had an overcast cloud deck that made the mandatory visual targeting impossible. Had Japan not surrendered, Nagasaki no doubt would still have had its military and military industrial targets struck by one of the next few atomic bombs in August or September 1945. Kokura and the Kokura Arsenal were immensely fortunate to have escaped destruction by an atomic bomb.


14 posted on 08/09/2013 12:34:22 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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It should also be remembered how Japan also had two competing atomic bomb development programs, one for the Army and one for the Navy.

People tend to forget that the Japanese leading up to WWII were essentially murderous criminal racist/rapist bastards. All one has to do is look at Nanking in 1937-1938. Anyone who thinks that ending the war with 2 atomic weapons was a bad idea is an utter fool....

15 posted on 08/09/2013 12:34:27 AM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: neverdem

We probably never would have had to drop the bomb on Japan, if FDR hadn’t been manipulated by Stalin. The USSR was never made to declare war on Japan, and they never did until the day before we dropped the 2nd bomb.


16 posted on 08/09/2013 12:39:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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We didn’t drop a bomb on Germany. You claim they were innocents saints then?


17 posted on 08/09/2013 12:41:13 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: freebilly

Hussein has compared himself to that creepy ass cracker.


18 posted on 08/09/2013 12:45:17 AM PDT by South40
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I dissent

the alternative was “no mainland invasion”


19 posted on 08/09/2013 12:51:16 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: nickcarraway

The Germans surrendered in May, ‘45. We dropped the bombs on Japan in Aug. Personally I wouldn’t have had a problem with us nuking Berlin, but since I’m of Japanese descent I tend to be more critical of my ancestral homeland....


20 posted on 08/09/2013 12:56:42 AM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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