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4 ex-Vandy players indicted for rape
espn ^ | 8-9-13 | n/a

Posted on 08/09/2013 7:50:47 PM PDT by FlJoePa

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Four former Vanderbilt football players have been indicted on five counts of aggravated rape each of an unconscious 21-year-old student at a campus dormitory in June.

Safety Cory Batey, 19 of Nashville, Tenn.; defensive back Brandon Banks, 19, of Brandywine, Md.; receiver Jaborian "Tip" McKenzie, 19, of Woodville, Miss.; and tight end Brandon Vandenburg, 20, of Indio, Calif. also have been charged with two counts of aggravated sexual battery for an incident tipped to campus officials by surveillance video. Vandenburg also is charged with one count of tampering with evidence and one count of unlawful photography.

While the players were indicted Friday, the district attorney general pointed out that the investigation isn't over yet.

"Although four people are being charged at this time, the investigation is still on-going into the actions of other individuals and the role(s) they may have played in this incident," District Attorney General Torry Johnson said in a statement.

Vanderbilt dismissed the players June 29 and barred them from the campus pending the investigation. Vice chancellor Beth Fortune said Friday that their first thoughts are for the victim, a Vanderbilt student, and that the university will continue to offer her all of its services and support.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: football; ncaa; thugball
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"ex-players?" They weren't ex-players when the alleged incident occurred.
1 posted on 08/09/2013 7:50:47 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa
InBeforeTheZot! Or before the first standard guess, more likely...

Since no race was mentioned, probably those pesky "Amish" Saint Skittles admirers. Were they bragging about how they were just misunderstood and really 'good boyz' on their way home from the library?

2 posted on 08/09/2013 8:02:04 PM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! <- In muzlim world, men = men, goats = nervous. ->)
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To: FlJoePa

Let me guess . . .


3 posted on 08/09/2013 8:02:45 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS

Jaborian?


4 posted on 08/09/2013 8:04:14 PM PDT by Gamecock (Member: NAACAC)
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To: FlJoePa

Ha-ha. Freaking African-Americans.


5 posted on 08/09/2013 8:06:43 PM PDT by tupac (the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe)
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To: FlJoePa

This is a rather important subject, and it seems to me the term “Vandy” is beneath the dignity the subject matter merits.

They may not wish to connect the two, but if you’re going to mention it, then do it right.

{not you FlJoePa}


6 posted on 08/09/2013 8:08:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: FlJoePa

They were ex players when the article was written, though.


7 posted on 08/09/2013 8:08:34 PM PDT by madison10
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To: FlJoePa

Vandy “keeping it real”.


8 posted on 08/09/2013 8:08:57 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: DoughtyOne

Explain


9 posted on 08/09/2013 8:10:04 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: FlJoePa

Any male person who gets off on having sex with an unconscious woman is no man at all. Having that sex after 3 others have left their mess is the act of a sick animal.

What should be done with sick animals is to have them euthanized.

Personally if a woman is not a conscious part of the sex act and is not enjoying the experience I would just as soon get up and leave.


10 posted on 08/09/2013 8:10:21 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: DoughtyOne

What “dignity” does the article merit? Using the nickname merely saves space, it does not hurt the victim any more.


11 posted on 08/09/2013 8:14:27 PM PDT by madison10
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To: DoughtyOne

espn headline writers would’ve just spelled it: Vanderbuilt


12 posted on 08/09/2013 8:15:00 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Geez, when the thugs have taken over even Vandy, you know college football is a complete mess.


13 posted on 08/09/2013 8:15:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: eyedigress
4 Ex-Vandy Players Indicted for Rape

Four former Vanderbilt football players have been indicted on five counts of aggravated rape each of an unconscious 21-year-old student at a campus dormitory in June.

It just didn't seem to me that headline was very respectful.

Inside the article they refer to the men being former Vanderbilt Football players. Using the term "Vandy" as a headline for a report on men accused of rape, seemed to be a bit casual.

Out here on the West Coast, I had never heard the term Vandy before. I was fairly sure what it referenced. Should I and others need to guess what it means when skimming headlines? Use the word Vanderbilt.

If they're discussing the sports angle, then by all means refer to them as Vandys or whatever.

14 posted on 08/09/2013 8:17:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: Gamecock
Jaborian?

Don't think so.

15 posted on 08/09/2013 8:17:36 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: DoughtyOne

The “dignity” of the subject matter? What the hell does that even mean?

4 football players raped an unconscious girl. Tell me about the dignity of Vanderbilt University after this crap.


16 posted on 08/09/2013 8:18:38 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: madison10

What it appears to be doing, is trying to distance the men from the school name Vanderbilt.

I wasn’t actually sure if this was Vanderbilt or not, until I started reading the article. That looks to be the desire.

I don’t really care if they use the name of the school or not, but if they’re going to connect the guys, they should do it formally when reporting something of this nature or importance.


17 posted on 08/09/2013 8:19:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: DoughtyOne

So I guess saying SoCal sucks ass is worse than saying University of Southern California sucks Ass.

Get a grip.


18 posted on 08/09/2013 8:21:12 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: dfwgator

The police force at Vandy are militant. My GGF was an alum. Must be turning in his grave.


19 posted on 08/09/2013 8:21:29 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: FlJoePa
The odds of these guys getting the Duke Lacrosse player treatment are ________.

Fill in the blank

20 posted on 08/09/2013 8:21:32 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: eyedigress

The subject matter is rape. When reporting things pertaining to it, nicknames aren’t appropriate.

It’s a grave matter, and only formal names should be used.

That’s my take on it. It’s okay for you to disagree.


21 posted on 08/09/2013 8:23:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: FlJoePa
..... and tight end Brandon Vandenburg, 20,

Well, he will still hold that position in prison, but it will have another meaning :-)

22 posted on 08/09/2013 8:24:14 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: eyedigress

That’s actually a great example.

People reading an important article should be able to know precisely what SoCal references. Are you talking about a region or a school? If the discussion is about a serious crime involving a young woman, I think it’s important to use more precision.

Get a grip? LOL


23 posted on 08/09/2013 8:25:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It is a heightened matter as it involves the program.

I’m not being politically correct, these kids at class A div 1 are under a scope. That scope belongs to the leadership of every school.


24 posted on 08/09/2013 8:28:52 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: ConservaTexan

Who knows. They’re alleged crimes at this point. After what I’ve been through (and researched, and read, and researched, and read), I don’t assume much anymore.

It does seem they have photos from the one kid’s phone though.

I just find the headline sort of misleading. Not the “Vandy” part, but the “ex” part. I agree with the one poster - sort of - I think it leads one to think they weren’t on the team when the incidents occurred.

If you just read the headline, you could think it was 4 alumni stock brokers on Wall St.


25 posted on 08/09/2013 8:29:31 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: DoughtyOne

Well, if you ever get confused about the “Vandy” region, I’m sure there are plenty to guide you.


26 posted on 08/09/2013 8:33:36 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: DoughtyOne

The common name for Vanderbilt in Tennessee in “VANDY


27 posted on 08/09/2013 8:34:43 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: Coldwater Creek

Bristol, Connecticut as well.


28 posted on 08/09/2013 8:36:32 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: FlJoePa

This is what they call a party at Vandy... okay I walked right into that one.

Seriously. It’s wicked. Of course. We got so much wickedness today that we’ve forgotten what goodness is.


29 posted on 08/09/2013 8:39:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and mean it. See my page.)
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Vandy is known as a academic school. Guess these guys left their brains on the playing field. If I had to guess 3 out of the 4 were white.
30 posted on 08/09/2013 8:41:40 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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“It’s a grave matter, and only formal names should be used...”

Gotta agree with you. The title struck me wrong too. And, you can believe these rapists were not “informally” charged with rape...they were formally charged. In addition, I’ll bet the defense attorney addresses the judge as “Your Honor”...not “yo, dude”.


31 posted on 08/09/2013 8:42:25 PM PDT by moovova
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To: FlJoePa

And, it really is to weep. Spiritual light is dying out, spiritual darkness creeps. Nashville itself is a fascinating study in spiritual contrasts. It’s got some of the deepest Christian blessings as a bible belt city, and it’s also intensely haunted with raw wickedness.


32 posted on 08/09/2013 8:42:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

33 posted on 08/09/2013 8:43:32 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Gamecock

An Armenian fellow, I’m sure.


34 posted on 08/09/2013 8:44:31 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

All the academics in the world can’t make up for a spiritual deficit. This is a situation that is ultimately tied to individual people. God’s wooing a world of deaf and blind people.


35 posted on 08/09/2013 8:44:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and mean it. See my page.)
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To: FlJoePa

I was wrong!


36 posted on 08/09/2013 8:52:26 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: DoughtyOne

Some nitpicking and general ruminations (a bit off the beaten path, maybe, but) :

(1) How did the surveillance camera see what was taking place inside a dorm room? The authorities were looking for something else, and just “accidentally” discovered an alleged rape?

(Given the recent concerns about a Big Brother state,
that explanation sounds chilling.”Yeah, we weren’t looking for YOU; so we didn’t have a warrant; but we just happened to notice something suspicious while we were lawfully looking for something else...”)

(2) Whenever I read that the media has a policy not to name rape victims, I have to ask why it names the accused before they are convicted. I’m assuming these guys
are guilty; but too many names get wrecked by media frenzy (think Duke lacrosse).


37 posted on 08/09/2013 8:54:03 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Utilizer

“Since no race was mentioned, probably those pesky “Amish” Saint Skittles admirers. “

Three out of four and the fourth one’s a maybe.


38 posted on 08/09/2013 8:55:32 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I agree, but being spiritually bankrupt doesn't make one an illiterate imbecile.
39 posted on 08/09/2013 8:55:34 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: Coldwater Creek

We vehemently agree?

Anyhow, the popular equation of “intelligence” with “wisdom” is another devil’s lie.


40 posted on 08/09/2013 9:00:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and mean it. See my page.)
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To: vette6387

Probably mooselimb, if I had to guess. Then again, they might all have been.


41 posted on 08/09/2013 9:05:24 PM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! <- In muzlim world, men = men, goats = nervous. ->)
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To: vette6387

4th guy was a JuCo transfer from the College of the Desert in CA. #1 ranked JuCo TE in the country last year and #10 overall JuCo prospect.

While Vanderbilt Football has always had a pretty good academic record, not so much lately. New coach. Lots of fan expectations in that conference.


42 posted on 08/09/2013 9:19:58 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: vette6387
Clockwise from top left:

Tip McKenzie, Brandon Banks, Brandon Vandenburg and Cory Batey


43 posted on 08/09/2013 9:21:47 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: FlJoePa; a fool in paradise

Pity. Such academic scholars.


44 posted on 08/09/2013 9:23:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Iron Munro

If she was drunk and passed out it wasn’t really rape-rape was it? </WHOOPI!!!>


45 posted on 08/09/2013 9:25:10 PM PDT by null and void (I love America, and the American people.)
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To: eyedigress

IMO, the rape is the heightening matter. The program is secondary.


46 posted on 08/09/2013 9:30:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: eyedigress

LOL, so I’m supposed to phone in to check out what couldn’t be stated clearly in the headline. Is that about it?

LOL


47 posted on 08/09/2013 9:31:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

This is a story with national implications. Believe it or not, it’s not just a story in Tennessee. I don’t follow college sports all that closely, but I do have a rather broad interest base. I’ve never even heard the term Vandy before.

If I haven’t, I can assure you that many people in this nation haven’t. I believe the name Vanderbilt should have been used in the title.

It may be picky, but I’m allowed to be picky. ;^)


48 posted on 08/09/2013 9:33:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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To: tupac

They could have been proud sons of ——— Oh never mind.


49 posted on 08/09/2013 9:34:11 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: moovova

Thanks for the comments. The ‘Yo dude’ line was rather humorous.


50 posted on 08/09/2013 9:34:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain.)
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