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Mining at ‘breaking point’ as investors flee - Gold Fields
Mineweb ^ | 16 aug 2013

Posted on 08/16/2013 5:56:18 AM PDT by rellimpank

The mining industry is at a “breaking point” as calls from governments and workers for a greater cut of profits hasten an investor exodus, Gold Fields Ltd. said.

“Governments in particular are seeing mining as a means of putting more into their central coffers,” Chief Executive Officer Nick Holland said today in a speech in Johannesburg. “A lot of it has come about because of the metal boom that we’ve seen.” The “equity model is at breaking point,” he said in an accompanying slide show.

Australia, Namibia and Zimbabwe are among nations that have sought to expand their share of profits from natural resources in the past three years by raising mining taxes or favoring state control of projects. In South Africa, where Gold Fields is based, labor unions, companies and the government are vying for a larger share of revenues even as commodity prices slide.

(Excerpt) Read more at mineweb.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gold; mining; profits
-if somebody can still make a profit, the thieves in government everywhere want it--
1 posted on 08/16/2013 5:56:19 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
Convert all mining vehicles and stationary engines etc. to CNG or LPG....

I didn't pull this out of my hat but it came from a conversation with my now deceased diesel wonk that the savings would be in the Tens of Thousands of dollars per day in the uber big mines.

This would give them increased margins to stay in business, if they can get capital for the conversions or have it in reserve...

2 posted on 08/16/2013 6:33:19 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: rellimpank

Further reducing supply....

http://www.silverdoctors.com/10-of-us-annual-silver-supply-just-vaporized/


3 posted on 08/16/2013 6:34:33 AM PDT by Therapsid (Communism has killed 50-60 Million people in only 50 yrs.)
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To: taildragger
--with fuel being one of the big costs ( fuel, tires and explosives are the largest expense items in most large mines, along with labor, of course) it would help but the initial conversion price would be staggering----

--I did see that the North Dakota folks (Bakken formation) are starting the process of converting to NG engines ---

4 posted on 08/16/2013 7:06:41 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Therapsid

Looks like a highly tinted river of dirt.

5 posted on 08/16/2013 7:07:51 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rellimpank

You find the gold:
You dig it out:
We take the profit.

That’s Government.


6 posted on 08/16/2013 7:09:16 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Venturer

Hypothetical....why would anyone report gold from mining if it’s going to be taxed away from them? It’s not like gold can be “tagged” as to its source and date of mining.


7 posted on 08/16/2013 7:12:52 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

— the above post of the Bingham Canyon slide should illustrate why it is difficult to hide a large mine——from the tax man or anyone else-—


8 posted on 08/16/2013 7:25:49 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: grania

I believe the old days when you picked up a few nuggets off the ground are mostly in peoples memories.

Today it take moving a lot of dirt to follow a vein. A lot of workers and a vast outfit to mine what gold is there.

Permits to open a mine and people (worker)to be paid.

Probably impossible to get any real amount of gold without letting the Government know.


9 posted on 08/16/2013 7:27:14 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: rellimpank

Socialism consumes everything.

If you still have something, wait a minute. They just haven’t gotten to you yet.


10 posted on 08/16/2013 7:37:53 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: rellimpank

In those countries that have even speculated about nationalizing the mines, the mining companies should immediately preposition explosive charges in the mines to guarantee that if the mines are snatched, they will be worthless without a LOT of investment to clear and re-shore them.

They might even consider swapping out their high quality water pumps and air systems with much cheaper, high maintenance, lower life ones, and moving the good ones out of the country.

Last, to protect their investors, which is a good long term policy, do a 1:1 equity swap with a special equity that is 100% backed, essentially insured, outside of the country, so the most they could lose would be say, 1% of current value.


11 posted on 08/16/2013 8:27:14 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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