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Senator: Obama Administration Secretly Suspended Military Aid to Egypt
The Daily Beast ^ | Monday, August 19, 2013 | Josh Rogin

Posted on 08/19/2013 5:35:44 PM PDT by kristinn

The U.S. government has decided privately to act as if the military takeover of Egypt was a coup, temporarily suspending most forms of military aid, despite deciding not to announce publicly a coup determination one way or the other, according to a leading U.S. senator.

In the latest example of its poorly understood Egypt policy, the Obama administration has decided to temporarily suspend the disbursement of most direct military aid, the delivery of weapons to the Egyptian military, and some forms of economic aid to the Egyptian government while it conducts a broad review of the relationship. The administration won’t publicly acknowledge all aspects of the aid suspension and maintains its rhetorical line that no official coup determination has been made, but behind the scenes, extensive measures to treat the military takeover of Egypt last month as a coup are being implemented on a temporary basis.

The office of Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), the head of the Appropriations State and Foreign Operations Subcommittee, told The Daily Beast on Monday that military aid to Egypt has been temporarily cut off.

“[Senator Leahy’s] understanding is that aid to the Egyptian military has been halted, as required by law,” said David Carle, a spokesman for Leahy.

The administration’s public message is that $585 million of promised aid to the Egyptian military in fiscal 2013 is not officially on hold, as technically it is not due until Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year, and no final decisions have been made.

“After sequestration withholding, approximately $585 million remains unobligated. So, that is the amount that is unobligated,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Monday. “But it would be inaccurate to say that a policy decision has been made with respect to the remaining assistance funding.”

But two administration officials told The Daily Beast that administration lawyers decided it was best to observe the law restricting military aid on a temporary basis, as if there had been a coup designation, while at the same time deciding that the law did not require a public announcement on whether a coup took place.

“The decision was we’re going to avoid saying it was a coup, but to stay on the safe side of the law, we are going to act as if the designation has been made for now,” said one administration official. “By not announcing the decision, it gives the administration the flexibility to reverse it.”

Several parts of the aid are now temporarily on hold, including the disbursement of the $585 million of $1.3 billion in fiscal 2013 foreign military financing still not delivered to the Egyptian military, the delivery of Apache helicopters that the Egyptian government has already paid for, and the depositing of economic support funds for programs that would directly benefit the Egyptian government, despite official administration denials, the administration officials said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: egypt; egyptaid; egyptcoup; egyptmb; muslimbrotherhood; obama
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1 posted on 08/19/2013 5:35:44 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: melancholy; caww; maggief

FYI.


2 posted on 08/19/2013 5:37:20 PM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: kristinn

So , I guess the Russians will have a new canal and port, if not bases in the middle east. How convenient to Syria too.


3 posted on 08/19/2013 5:37:58 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: kristinn

The Saudis already have said they will write the checks.

Put the saved US money towards wounded warriors.


4 posted on 08/19/2013 5:38:08 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

And he pissed off Egypt which we have vital interest in.

I am sorry, Obama sucks, this entire Arab Spring sucks.


5 posted on 08/19/2013 5:40:41 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: kristinn

This rogue regime (not theirs, ours) has lost all legitimacy ... it is time for regime change in the US.


6 posted on 08/19/2013 5:40:50 PM PDT by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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To: kristinn

Wow! I can’t believe it. Could this be the first good thing Obama has done???? Please tell me I am right. Any aide to another country at the time we have zero money is not a good thing. Israel is different because they have a whole bunch of countries that want Israel whipped out.


7 posted on 08/19/2013 5:41:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: 2banana

If by “wounded warriors” you mean shiftless food stamp recipients, Section 8, ACORN and the EPA, I’m sure Mr. Obama will kindly comply.


8 posted on 08/19/2013 5:41:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: kristinn

What secret? He said he was going to do it....


9 posted on 08/19/2013 5:41:24 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It wasn't the Rodeo Clown's act, it was the crowd reaction they could't take.)
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To: 2banana

If by “wounded warriors” you mean shiftless food stamp recipients, Section 8, ACORN and the EPA, I’m sure Mr. Obama will kindly comply.


10 posted on 08/19/2013 5:41:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2banana

Wounded Warriors would rather see Americas interests preserved than lose power in the world and have their butts wiped.


11 posted on 08/19/2013 5:42:28 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: kristinn

Thats OK

The king of Saudi Arabia that Barry bowed to has picked up the slack...

BAD BARRY

Yuz POed yuz king..


12 posted on 08/19/2013 5:43:10 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: kristinn

We just handed over control of the Suez Canal to Russia??


13 posted on 08/19/2013 5:43:48 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: kristinn; colorado tanker

There is the chance of course that obamas plan is bloody bloody insurrection like in syria, iraq, afghanistan, libya...he needs to keep al queada going.


14 posted on 08/19/2013 5:44:22 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: elpadre

It’s looking to shape up that way.


15 posted on 08/19/2013 5:44:47 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: kristinn

Muzzie dead-enders in charge? PLENTY of US weapons

Balanced people take charge? NO MORE...!

Gosh I WONDER if Obama is a muzzie, right?

YEAH I WONDER...!


16 posted on 08/19/2013 5:48:06 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: mylife

Honduras on the Suez with Morsi playing the part of the democrats’ chosen despot


17 posted on 08/19/2013 5:49:01 PM PDT by vrwconspiracist (The Tax Man cometh)
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To: kristinn
In the latest example of its poorly understood Egypt policy, the Obama administration...

the kenyan is a Sunni Mohammedan and a Moslem Brotherhood sympathizer if not a member.What more is needed for understanding?

18 posted on 08/19/2013 5:49:21 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: kristinn

Several parts of the aid are now temporarily on hold, including ... the delivery of Apache helicopters that the Egyptian government has already paid for,
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so this is not aid..

the helicopters were paid for by Egypt...

This has to be a NONO...

but what does that-guy-in-my-White-House TM care ???


19 posted on 08/19/2013 5:49:41 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: napscoordinator

Personally I doubt its true.

Nobody is asking enough questions about these so called secularists who supported the ousting of Morsi and what I’m finding is people we shouldn’t cheer on or trust any more than the brotherhood. They sound to me like Obama’s kind of people.

A little research on the Tamarod movement and their parent Kefaya movement would go a long way.


20 posted on 08/19/2013 5:49:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: gaijin
muzzie
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21 posted on 08/19/2013 5:51:31 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: kristinn

I hope Ann Patterson the ambassador and her staff are not in Egypt still..


22 posted on 08/19/2013 5:51:56 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: cripplecreek

There are no Mohammedan good guys. We should not be sending foreign aid to any of them. We should not otherwise be supporting any of them. Let them massacre each other. God will sort it all out though I suspect there will only be one bin.


23 posted on 08/19/2013 5:54:27 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: napscoordinator

Sorry.... You are wrong.... It’s a bad thing, very bad to send a message to the MB we are defacto supporting them by cutting off aid to the Egyptian military ...let the MB back in power and you will have the next Iran....in five years....

... And for what it is worth the Egyptian people are supporting the military...we should too,,,,

It’s fairy dust thinking to believe a place like Egypt will not need to shed some blood to restore stability to the country....


24 posted on 08/19/2013 5:55:09 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: kristinn

$585 million???

Benghazi Barry wants the dough for his next vacation.


25 posted on 08/19/2013 5:56:21 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: kristinn
Doesn't matter.

We were giving $1.3 bil to the Egyptian military...Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have committed $12 bil (per Bret Baier's Special Report tonight).

Somehow, I don't think the Egyptian military is worried about Obama's feelings about his beloved Muslim Brotherhood.

Boo frikken hoo, Barky!

Take your marbles and go HOME!

26 posted on 08/19/2013 6:00:12 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: kristinn
In the latest example of its poorly understood Egypt policy, the Obama administration has decided to temporarily suspend the disbursement of most direct military aid,...

I don't agree with this statement. Obama has totally messed up Egypt but it is not because he doesn't understand it. He is carrying out his policy based on a very clear goal: Install the Muslim Brotherhood as rulers of Egypt (and, incidentally, Syria and probably Libya as well).

Understanding Egypt isn't part of his equation. Whether he understands Egypt or he doesn't understand Egypt matters not one whit. A goal is a goal.

Give Obama some credit. He has been instrumental in throwing out two major anti-MB players in the ME (Libya and Egypt). He managed to get the Muslim Brotherhood installed for a year in Egypt and he is working on Syria. Libya will take a little more work. But he is making steady progress toward his goal. Egypt is a setback of course but his actions demonstrate clearly that a Muslim Brotherhood dominated Egypt is still the goal. So he is not giving up on Egypt.

It should be noted that none of this is in the best interest of the U.S. But then again, serving the U.S. interest is also not part of the Obama - Middle East Equation.

27 posted on 08/19/2013 6:03:03 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

And the MB is funded by Saudis. Guess who wins this one.


28 posted on 08/19/2013 6:05:02 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: kristinn

Why is this even a surprise? The only goal of 0’s foreign policy is the advancement of Islamism. Everything makes sense when you keep that in mind.


29 posted on 08/19/2013 6:05:59 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: kristinn
That's OK...

Arab states ready to cover any cuts in aid to Egypt: Saudi Arabia

30 posted on 08/19/2013 6:08:16 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: kristinn

Lies, lies and more damn lies. I am on overload and can no longer tell what’s up or down with this administration.


31 posted on 08/19/2013 6:08:48 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: kristinn

Well, ole Patrick Leahy is at it again-leaking info to the press. They don’t call him “leaky Leahy” for nothing


32 posted on 08/19/2013 6:09:55 PM PDT by murrie (Mark Levin: Prosecuting stupidity nightly.)
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To: combat_boots
And the MB is funded by Saudis. Guess who wins this one.

I don't think so. Right now Saudi Arabia is funding General El-Siri in Egypt who is fighting the MB and wants to outlaw them. And the Saudis have stated that they will make up any shortfall that results from the withdrawal of U.S. or other foreign aid to Egypt.

33 posted on 08/19/2013 6:11:59 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: JZoback

I definitely need to figure out how to understand this whole Egypt thing. To be honest, I thought they were just killing each other and see what happens, but your post says that I need to be aware of what is going on and find out why it is important for America to get involved. The thing is I guess if McCain was in his second term, we would be in at least Syria and Egypt with our military?

Thanks for your posts!!!!!


34 posted on 08/19/2013 6:13:42 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: combat_boots
And the MB is funded by Saudis. Guess who wins this one.

Some wealthy individual Saudis might be funding the MB. But the Saudi government is funding the Egyptian military.

Your question still applies: Guess who wins this one.

35 posted on 08/19/2013 6:14:22 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: kristinn

Well, they don’t call him “Leaky Leahy” for nothing.

Too bad. Juan Williams (on Fox News) was right for the first time in history when he called for our support of the Egyptian Military.


36 posted on 08/19/2013 6:14:43 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: kristinn

Well, they don’t call him “Leaky Leahy” for nothing.

Too bad. Juan Williams (on Fox News) was right for the first time in history when he called for our support of the Egyptian Military.


37 posted on 08/19/2013 6:14:49 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

Fox “News” Panel is so full of stupid liberals
from Hume on, that Juan Williams, amazingly,
is the MOST conservative on the panel.
And that has been week after week.


38 posted on 08/19/2013 6:17:33 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: InterceptPoint

Good point.

I was specifically thinking of the Bin Ladens, who are billionaires.


39 posted on 08/19/2013 6:21:02 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: kristinn

Do Egyptians really need our help to kill other Egyptians?


40 posted on 08/19/2013 6:21:53 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: InterceptPoint

Good point.

I was specifically thinking of the Bin Ladens, who are billionaires. Osama was. Old man Bin Laden is/was. Osama’s son, Al Harbi....who was in Boston...is well thy. These people can go to the money well for a long time.


41 posted on 08/19/2013 6:22:33 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Are ANY Middle Eastern US embassies open again? In any Muslim country?


42 posted on 08/19/2013 6:23:37 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: kristinn

That’s why Putin is picking up the slack...

Putin acts in support of Egyptian military

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3055973/posts


43 posted on 08/19/2013 6:27:26 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: kristinn

That’s why Putin is picking up the slack...

Putin acts in support of Egyptian military

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3055973/posts


44 posted on 08/19/2013 6:27:34 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: kristinn

What a sorry, screwed up mess. And we, well Obama, have been eyeball deep in it.


45 posted on 08/19/2013 6:27:45 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: kristinn

0bama is doing a fine job of alienating all of America’s allies. I have a feeling this isn’t accidental.


46 posted on 08/19/2013 6:28:15 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: kristinn
“The decision was we’re going to avoid saying it was a coup, but to stay on the safe side of the law, we are going to act as if the designation has been made for now,” said one administration official. “By not announcing the decision, it gives the administration the flexibility to reverse it.”

Yet, we're supposed to believe this president (lower case "p" on purpose) made a "gutsy call" about killing bin Laden?

GTFOOH.

47 posted on 08/19/2013 6:35:47 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: kristinn

This a “have your cake and eat it, too” leak to the press. The 0 regime can officially deny ending aid to Egypt, to the new army regime and to the MB while the domestic lib press dutifully discloses these unofficial leaks in print and on TV.


48 posted on 08/19/2013 6:39:45 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: napscoordinator

this is not a “good thing”

it only shows the Egyptians, Saudis and other middle east governments that the US insists they include al Qaeda (directly linked to MB see arrest of al Qaeda leader’s brother by EG last weekend) in any “democratic” coalition government - as if the MB/al Qaeda was willing to be part of a “coalition”?

so, Obama’s policy peeps are throwing both Egypt and Saudi Arabia under the magic bus

when we cut off aid, and Saudi/the Gulf States replace it, and Egypt contracts for Russian and Chinese weapons, what has obama’s policy achieved?


49 posted on 08/19/2013 6:41:26 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: napscoordinator
this is not a “good thing”

it only shows the Egyptians, Saudis and other middle east governments that the US insists they include al Qaeda (directly linked to MB see arrest of al Qaeda leader's brother by EG last weekend) in any “democratic” coalition government - as if the MB/al Qaeda was willing to be part of a “coalition”?

so, Obama’s policy peeps are throwing both Egypt and Saudi Arabia under the magic bus

when we cut off aid, and Saudi/the Gulf States replace it, and Egypt contracts for Russian and Chinese weapons, what has obama’s policy achieved?

50 posted on 08/19/2013 6:41:42 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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