‘Stand your ground’ bill in Ohio legislature rouses foes

The Columbus Dispatch ^ | August 20, 2013 | Jim Siegel and Randy Ludlow

[Louis Foxwell]

The Cowardice Bill puts agressors in charge. This is the purpose of such pressure. Gang thugs are to be given primary respect.

[Old Sarge]

When they get down to the 12oz, oh it’s on...

[TheOldLady]

Michael Weinman, director of governmental affairs for the Ohio Fraternal Order of Police, said deadly force should be a last option, not first.

“The fear is this will embolden people. Instead of allowing for a cool-down period, they immediately react to whatever upset them.”

Deadly force is the first option of criminals and muggers, you idiot.

One who is being accosted by a mugger, a thief, or a group of thugs playing the "Blacks KnockDown a White person" game needs to react immediately to save his person
and his life. Nobody ever talked a group of these drugged up heathens out of beating himm senseless or to death, in some cases. Get a damn clue, you witless dope.

[G Larry]

My point is that those laws don’t pass constitutional muster, and you won’t find me complying.

[bunkerhill7]

a. Second Amendment requires NO TRAINING.

We are sharpshooters and marksmen/women from the age of 8 up here.

b. "It’s basically the same — you can’t use lethal force in either case unless you fear serious bodily injury or death."

GIMME A BREAK-

Police use lethal force all the time, sometimes on UNARMED CITIZENS because they DO NOT KNOW IF THEY FEAR SERIOUS BODILY INJURY OR DEATH coz they cannot see a weapon, sometimes only a bulge or dark object.

Then they want to be JUDGE AND JURY illegally at that moment instead OF RETREATING-

the POLICE WANT TO FIGHT and SHOOT TO KILL, not retreat

NO ONE CAN PREDICT 100% that an outcome is deadly or not

Are these people GOD??

This is a stupid non-sequitur argument.

[packrat35]

That statement proves cops are NOT your friends. Some people here on FR need to wake up.

Most cops now want to be the ones to have guns, not you!

[Sacajaweau]

Nothing will come of it. It just gives them a platform and likely...an income...travel, expenses etc..

It's all about M O N E Y.

[TheOldLady]

From my cold, dead hands.

[RC one]

The animals need to be put back in their place. This law is definitely a step forward in the right direction.

[vette6387]

“Ohio police, police chiefs and prosecutors oppose the proposed change in law.”

Of course, this comes from the LEO’s in a state where speeding is a capital crime.
The cops here in California scare me, but the one’s in Ohio are Marxist thugs.

[Standing Wolf]

My point is that those laws don’t pass constitutional muster, and you won’t find me complying.

You won't get even a seventeenth of a little bitty part of an eleventeenth of an argument from me on that.

[S.O.S121.500]

Retreat is limited to securing a Modified Weaver stance or hard cover.