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To: Jeff Winston

Your Bayard quote doesn’t say citzen by birth = natural-born citizen. It qualifies that citizenship by birth occurs to “all the children of citizens.” IOW, someone can’t just be born abroad and be a U.S. citizen. They have to be born to citizen parents the SAME way they had to be born to citizen parents in the U.S. at the time Bayard wrote his observation. There were only two ways to be a citizen at birth and both involved being born to citizen parents. This excludes both Obama and Cruz, as well as Rubio and Jindal. Thanks for helping to prove it. Sorry your quote backfired.


214 posted on 08/21/2013 11:28:52 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919
Your Bayard quote doesn’t say citzen by birth = natural-born citizen. It qualifies that citizenship by birth occurs to “all the children of citizens.” IOW, someone can’t just be born abroad and be a U.S. citizen. They have to be born to citizen parents the SAME way they had to be born to citizen parents in the U.S. at the time Bayard wrote his observation.

Of course it says that all that's needed is for a person to be a citizen by birth. It says that ABSOLUTELY DIRECTLY.

Once again you illustrate that you're prepared to simply call black white, and white black, and completely deny reality, in order try pitifully to maintain your false belief:

It is only requisite that he should be a citizen by birth.

I don't know how anyone could say more directly IT IS ONLY NECESSARY THAT A PERSON BE A CITIZEN BY BIRTH, except to substitute the more modern word NECESSARY for the out-of-date synonym "requisite."

As for whether it took citizen parents to be a natural born citizen, IT DIDN'T. As another of America's FOREMOST LEGAL EXPERTS, WILLIAM RAWLE WHO WAS A MEMBER OF THE FOUNDERS' INNER CIRCLE MEETINGS LEADING UP TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION, wrote:

"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."

Again, you couldn't be more clear. The foremost authorities in the early United States, including not only James Bayard and William Rawle, but also George Washington and nearly half of the Signers of the Constitution, say that birthers are completely full of sh*t.

235 posted on 08/22/2013 10:43:46 AM PDT by Jeff Winston (Yeah, I think I could go with Cruz in 2016.)
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