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To: BigGuy22

Have you found any evidence from a “reliable source” of anyone who has renounced their U.S. Citizenship and is currently living in the U.S. as a U.S. citizen? An Oath of Renunciation submitted to the U.S Secretary of State is not publicly available. Any Oath of Renunciation may have been filled out and published by a renunciant, but that is not proof it was submitted to the U.S. State Department.

An Oath of Renunciation is a request for the U.S. Secretary of State to issue a Certificate of Loss of Nationality. The issuance of a Certificate of Loss of Nationality is discretionary and governed by a policy dictated by the current administration. Consequently, an administration in 2013 may have a policy that did not exist in 1966.

Request for termination of U.S. Citizenship on logged into the State Department’s CLASS system (Consular Lookout and Support System). Entries into the CLASS system are proprietary and not available to the general public.

As soon as the State Department puts their CLASS system on the net, you’ll have proof Obama was issued a Certificate of Loss of Nationality. Until then, you have to be a State Department employee or contractor with access to the CLASS system or know somebody who has access to obtain proof.


243 posted on 08/22/2013 12:41:10 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

“An Oath of Renunciation submitted to the U.S Secretary of State is not publicly available.”
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So you are acknowledging that you’ve got absolutely no evidence that such a document exists. The existence of the document is entirely of your own invention.

But I find it interesting that you are referencing the State Department as a possible source of information on this question.

Are you aware that the State Department, in a court filing, has stated, “To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States or that President Obama is or ever was a citizen of Indonesia, those allegations are denied.”?

(Strunk v. Dept. of State, Defendants’ Answer to Plaintiff’s Amended Complaint, ¶ 55 and elsewhere)

So, you’ve got not a drop of evidence that the President renounced his citizenship, and there is an assertion by the State Department that he did not.


245 posted on 08/22/2013 1:08:51 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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