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Judge finds breathalyzer not scientifically reliable
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | August 22, 2013 | Alan Johnson

Posted on 08/22/2013 6:08:47 AM PDT by Deadeye Division

A court decision discrediting the reliability of machines used by hundreds of Ohio law-enforcement agencies to test drunken drivers could be the “death blow” for the controversial devices, defense attorneys say.

But a spokeswoman for the Ohio Department of Health, the state agency that oversees the Intoxilyzer 8000, said officials remain confident of its “performance and reliability.”

The ruling was rendered Aug. 13 by Judge Teresa L. Liston, a retired Franklin County Municipal judge appointed by the Ohio Supreme Court to hear eight consolidated cases in Marietta Municipal Court where motorists were challenging test results obtained using the Intoxilyzer 8000.

Liston concluded after a five-day hearing that included testimony by expert witnesses on both sides that the machine has a “presumption of reliability” because it is officially approved by the Department of Health. However, results from the Intoxilyzer 8000 are “not scientifically reliable and the court, as a gatekeeper against unscientific evidence, must prohibit them from being introduced as evidence in this case.”

“Through evidence, we convinced the court that these machines are unreliable,” said Tim Huey, a Columbus lawyer involved in the case and the past president of the Ohio Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers who has been fighting the breath-testing machines for years. “Is it going to usher it out the door tomorrow? No.”

But Huey said Liston’s decision could be the “death blow” for the machine that has faced repeated legal challenges since first introduced in Ohio in 2009.

The Health Department, which certifies the Intoxilyzer 8000, bought 700 of the portable testers using a $5 million federal grant. About 400 are in use around Ohio now, although not in Franklin County, Huey said.

Huey and other defense attorneys have filed more than 50 cases challenging the machines on behalf of clients charged with driving under the influence. Attorneys argue that heat, humidity and other factors often skew the results.

Prosecutors have relied in the past on a 1984 Ohio Supreme Court decision that said because the machines were officially certified by the state, they could not be challenged by expert witnesses. However, several judges, including Judge Gary Dumm of Circleville Municipal Court in a 2011 decision, challenged that, saying Intoxilyzer 8000 results will not be admitted in their courts.

Tessie Pollock of the Department of Health said agency officials know about the Marietta ruling. “But please be aware that 98 percent of the appellate rulings are in favor of the state and deem the I-8000 a reliable instrument. There are approximately 400 instruments currently deployed throughout the state. The Intoxilyzer 8000 was chosen for use in Ohio because of its proven performance, reliability and repeatability in extensive testing at the state and federal levels."

While court challenges are expected, Pollock said, “we are confident that the use of breath alcohol-testing instruments helps to reduce impaired driving and saves lives.”

ajohnson@dispatch.com

@ohioaj


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1 posted on 08/22/2013 6:08:47 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Deadeye Division

every lawyer knows it’s junk science


2 posted on 08/22/2013 6:10:33 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Deadeye Division

That’s ok...it’s a financial windfall for the States and even insurance companies.


3 posted on 08/22/2013 6:13:47 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Deadeye Division

Also check squad cars for alcohol containers used to get false readings...: )


4 posted on 08/22/2013 6:14:44 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Deadeye Division
I don't drink...never have and never will (yah,I know...boring life).However,I worked in Emergency Medicine for 20 years and know something about ethanol intoxication,having seen it about 50,000 times.If I was ever stopped for drunk driving and was cited/ticketed/arrested and *knew* that I hadn't had anything...or had only had one or two...I'd demand to be taken to the nearest hospital so that an “ETOH level” (ETOH is how ERs abbreviate ethanol) can be drawn.Of course I'd first make sure that I wasn't on any illegal drugs at the time because labs can easily detect those as well.
5 posted on 08/22/2013 6:18:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: Deadeye Division

I figured that people not deterred by the prospect of sudden death were unlikely to be deterred by the prospect of a ticket with sentence several months away.

It was just another revenue scam.


6 posted on 08/22/2013 6:21:12 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: jsanders2001
The sheriff of Nottingham is alive and well here in the US. With the plethora of “scientific” methods like the IS8000 and the stop light cameras with the shortened yellow warning interval, the state and municipalities where the sheriff and his men roam is nothing but a fertile penalty fee hunting ground. Whoa be it to the traveler who falls within the realm of one of these devices because as they say, if the state says it is so, it is so. The Mafia used to have a similar term: pay or die. I fail to see the distinction between the state and the mafia.
7 posted on 08/22/2013 6:24:53 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton
I fail to see the distinction between the state and the mafia.

The state has snappy uniforms.

/johnny

8 posted on 08/22/2013 6:31:33 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mouton

> I fail to see the distinction between the state and the mafia.

There is a difference. The mafia won’t spy on you online, force you to pay for benefits of illegals, try to remove the constitution, rewrite your history, force you to be tolerant of otherr religions while trying to remove your rights to worship, tax your homes, or lie to or manipulate you using subterfuge. That’s just for starters.


9 posted on 08/22/2013 6:38:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Deadeye Division

How does a machine report blood alcohol content (BAC) without blood?


10 posted on 08/22/2013 7:00:59 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: jsanders2001
> I fail to see the distinction between the state and the mafia.<

The state says they are legal and that the mafia competition is not. That is the difference.

11 posted on 08/22/2013 7:05:44 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: yldstrk

When I lived in Corpus Christi, TX., the prosecuting attorneys and police used a code number system to designate which breathalyzer test had been falsified.

They used a number code so the prosecuting attorneys would know from the very beginning and not be caught by surprise that the accused person was innocent.

Since they were claiming the test were so accurate, test that showed someone wasn’t intoxicated were being used in court as evidence against the police in civil suits.

To stop the test from being used as evidence against police, the decision was made to falsify test so the test would never go below .1%.

The person giving the test would hook up a bottle of alcohol and water to the machine before giving the person the test. The person who the test was being given to would never go below what the reading was for the bottle of alcohol and water.

If you agreed to take the test you would get a reading of .1%. If you refused to take the test the reading was .2% or .25%.

When police got out of line with someone they would simply haul that someone to jail, claim they were DWI, falsify a breath test, and the police walked free.

If you look in the police contract you will find this procedure right in the contract. Internal affairs doesn’t have to accept a complaint against a police officer if the person filing the complaint is “Obviously” intoxicated. With a reading of .1% you were considered to be “obviously” intoxicated so no complaint.


12 posted on 08/22/2013 7:08:46 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Breathalyzers can do a splendid job of more or less accurately reading the alcohol on your breath. That reading is implied to be tied to the actual BAC, and in principle, it is. However, the only way this works is to take a reading after a person has not taken a sip for awhile. If I open a beer and swish it around in my mouth and spit it out, my BAC is still zero but my breathalyzer reading would be high. So it is a screening method at best.


13 posted on 08/22/2013 7:09:05 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: yldstrk

A lady I know got a speeding ticket and showed it to me. The ticket listed the device that clocked her as a “Veeblefitzer 2000” or somesuch. Looked it up and it was a digital stopwatch available at The Sports Authority for $59.95. I urged her to challenge the ticket but she was too timid.


14 posted on 08/22/2013 7:29:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IMR 4350

thing of it is, it is expensive to try the case and have a lawyer prove it is crap, so people cave if they had a drink at all.

If I am out and driving, I do not drink even one drop

cops love to stick to lawyers because we make them look bad in court


15 posted on 08/22/2013 7:43:32 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

It didn’t make a difference if you had been drinking or not.

You could refuse to take the test and you would still get a test with your name on it showing you had BAL of anywhere from .1% to .25% depending on which bottle of alcohol and water they used for the test.


16 posted on 08/22/2013 8:01:32 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Deadeye Division
The Health Department, which certifies the Intoxilyzer 8000, bought 700 of the portable testers using a $5 million federal grant.

Heaven be thanked there's an endless supply of free gummint money.

17 posted on 08/22/2013 8:02:23 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: IMR 4350

yes I see that, and sometimes I do drive poorly according to my kids, and sometimes I do swerve to avoid hitting something, but I have not had a moving wreck, I have backed into things, but not a forward or side wreck. So, anyway, whatever


18 posted on 08/22/2013 8:04:10 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Standing Wolf

Bump


19 posted on 08/22/2013 1:36:42 PM PDT by Deadeye Division
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