National President Wayne Perry announces the voting results, approval of a resolution amending the BSA’s membership policy, removing the restriction excluding youth based solely on sexual orientation.
Posted on 08/23/2013 5:08:30 AM PDT by bert
National President Wayne Perry announces the voting results, approval of a resolution amending the BSA’s membership policy, removing the restriction excluding youth based solely on sexual orientation.
I didn’t know BSA was a “movement”.
It’s a dying “movement.” My sister has two sons in Boy Scouts . The older one on verge of eagle will try to finish but the younger boy is no longer in scouts.
It’s the kind of movement you leave in the toilet
I’m sorry, but I didn’t read that in the article.
Expect gay couples with NAMBLA memberships to enroll their boys en masse
BSA will be dead in the water within 5 years due to sexual assaults by scout leaders and older gay scouts. I predict lawsuits that are staggering.
Cannot be done without violating the Boy Scout oath and it is abhorrent to GOD.
Well then read it again.
National President Wayne Perry cuts the silence. “Whatever this says”—he pauses, raising the results envelope in front of his green Venturing uniform—“we have to come together. We love this movement."
BSA can shove it. I have given to them in the past, based on their once courageous stand against sodomy.
They sent me an email survey with all sorts of “scenarios” with homosexuals.....I made it clear then that my finances will not support them if they happily embrace homosexual behavior.
They do, so my monies now go to the boys organization at
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Already to weird. It’s the end.
Just a stepping stone to allowing openly homosexual chicken haw....er, scout leaders into the organization.
I used to donate $5 or $10 to every group of scouts I passed when they were out selling popcorn. I was also contemplating putting my son into scouts as I was a Boy Scout when I was young.
I'll never donate again and my son will never join.
Dear BSA:
You now stand for nothing. Your organization is doomed.
Sure made it a point to let everyone know in this fluff article er press release that it was a fair and honest vote count by an impartial 3rd party. Why do I get the feeling the amendment would have been approved regardless.
What does you son think on the matter?
My son is 7. He needs adults who have his best interest in mind making decisions for him, not groups that have been infiltrated and tainted.
Are you seriously defending this move by the Boy Scouts, Bert?
What's your motivation?
So, when these queer Eagle Scouts are ready to become scoutmasters once they become adults, who but the meanest of haters could deny their acceptance?
It was a difficult choice. My thought is that most who vociferously oppose BSA don’t know enough about the details of Troop management to understand
The change has to do with boys. There are no 7, or 11, or 13 year old queers.
It is not a problem with Cubs at all. Missing on the chance to be Cub could be missing a great opportunity. In 4 years and time for Weblos graduation to a Troop, the whole issue could be different. A decision at that point is still possible.
The problem is with older teenagers that advance to Eagle. The primary result will be that Queer boys can receive the Eagle award.
Almost no boys join scouting after 13. It happens but the likely hood is very small.
Then there are the boys. In strong troops where there are substantial numbers of older scouts, they will handle the problem. They will not allow sexual problems within the troop. As a matter of fact, the announced queer will likely be self ostracized because he knows they know.
In smaller, weaker troops, the presence of an older Scout that is an announced homo might disrupt activities to the point where is simply goes out of business. The weak two man leadership might just quit or the sponsoring institution might not renew the troops charter.
In my troop, we have a strong venture program. There are girls. They actively participate in all kinds of outdoor adventures. I am no longer associated with the day to day operation but the principle is the same. Any sexual (or drugs or alcohol) activity and you’re out of here. Although membership is accepted, bad behavior is not.
Locally, there is one troop, and old and strong troop that has announced the sponsoring institution, a medium sized Baptist church, has decided not to renew the charter. There is talk at other troops but no actual action. The Troop will not cease to exist however. A new Sponsoring institution, a Methodist church of similar size, will charter the troop.
I can not get a handle on the morally straight part of the oath when considering queers. I consider homosexuality immoral. The boy is swearing to the oath, not me. He apparently has different morals, even perhaps in his view, Christian morals.
There is a lot of talk here about lawsuits. It could not really be much worse than it already is. The cost to BSA for lawsuits is immense.
The question is leaders. Once a boy turns 18 as a scout or 21 as an explorer/venturer membership is over. Many 18 year old scouts continue briefly as registered adults, assistant Scoutmasters. Under the present arrangement, that will not necessarily be an automatic thing. They will be flagged by BSA and will not be permitted to go elsewhere and register as an adult. They have a dossier. This is very important. Problem leaders leave home and get job. They find a weak troop and become an assistant. The weak troop leader is very receptive to a former, well trained scout who wants to help.
It also remains to be seen if those who voted to allow queer boy members will vote to allow queer adults. My feeling is that they will not.
BSA has an extremely strong youth protection program that is mandatory for all adults and must be updated every two years. If implemented, most of the imagined bad things will not happen anyway. I have followed this program since the inception perhaps 25 years ago. Sometimes I think it is too harsh, but it is effective. Parents and new leaders readily accept it and are thankful for the program. (hint.... find out about it and the details before making a decision about Cubs)
I have the opportunity to see strong boy leadership in action. They are savvy in their perceptions and actions. They know what’s happening.
If there is a big problem, it will be in small, weaker troops. Large Troops already have self generated written policies on a long list of problem areas. I would think internal troop policy will be adequate to control problems.
-——who but the meanest of haters could deny their acceptance?——
They have come out. They have a BSA dossier......
Membership as an adult will be denied by the BSA council that approves all adult applications.
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