Skip to comments.Why Are American Conservatives Praising Putin?
Posted on 08/23/2013 11:44:23 AM PDT by MetaThought
Russian President Vladimir Putin, the career KGB officer who has presided over the rollback of his countrys post-Communist freedoms and revived Cold War-style anti-Americanism, is an unlikely hero for American conservatives. Yet the Kremlin strongman has lately found some fans on the right who see him as a defender of Christian values most recently, in the imbroglio over Russias new legal ban on gay propaganda. It is a sad misjudgment that does a disservice to the causes of conservatism, freedom, and religion alike.
Spokesmen for several right-wing groups including the American Family Association have praised the Russian law, which prohibits any pro-gay speech or expression that could be accessible to minors. Veteran columnist Pat Buchanan has joined the Putin cheerleading squad. And, shockingly, the usually thoughtful author Rod Dreher, who blogs for The American Conservative, has added his own 1.5 Cheers for Putin.
While condemning anti-gay violence and authoritarianism in Russia, Dreher praises Putins willingness to speak up for Christianity and laments that post-Soviet Russia, for all its grievous flaws, is . . . more conscious of its Christian history and character than the United States.
This is a truly grievous misunderstanding of the reality of religion and politics in 21st Century Russia. Russia today is outwardly far more religious than most of Western Europe, but its a religion of state more than church: Orthodox Christianity has taken Communisms place as the new official ideology, with church membership an official badge of patriotism and loyalty.
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I mean seriously? You have to ask?
Putie ain't perfect. But he is far better than Obammie in every way.
Goes under the category of ‘The enemy of my enemy is my friend”.
We wouldn’t have known about NSA transgressions without Snowden. Not that its going to change anything . . .
I think most of it is just a wistful longing for past days when the President of the United States loved and defended his country.
Because they wish we had a leader like him.
Because Putin’s values are closer to traditional America than are Obama’s.
Putin is more intelligent and civilized than Obama.
Apart from Obama, name me one American authoritarian you admire.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Finally! I have waited breathlessly to learn Cathy Young’s opinion. (Did I spell that right?)
Conservatives aren’t praising Putin, but they are marveling at how much better off we’d be if he were President instead of Obama.
We’re just looking at America through the funhouse mirror glasses that Obama is wearing, and we don’t like what we see.
Becuase President Bad Ass seems more fitting that “Presently Poosy”.
Which would you want?
A President that can be counted to act out on his previous patterns, with certitude or one that can’t make up his mind, often changing tables before he seats himself at the dinner table and again after the food has been served?
For real news, there is: Pravda and FreeRepublic! Long live the Republic!
Bingo. We’re comparing him to the Kenyan.
I've never understood it either. Putin is a murderous thug dictator presiding over a banana republic.
You got it, Ms Young. You're talking about Obama's regime, aren't you?
No, not really. It’s tough to be worse than KGB. I harbor a pet theory than Obama covertly is an employee of Putin et al. But even if that isn’t the case, you can never really trust a Klingon, no matter how much they tidy up.
Ms Young and her fans don’t seem to understand that Putin is a leader who fits the circumstances of Russia, not those of the United States. Were he the POTUS here, he’d fit the American culture, and that is what the conservatives (assume and) admire in him.
Because, in comparison to Obama, Putin looks pretty good - ruthless, competent, and proudly nationalistic.
Which is scary as hell, because Putin is so far away from "traditional America(n)" values that the light from them take a thousand years to get here.
At least Putin is interested in the survival of his country and its culture, as he obviously sees America and the West’s days are numbered, as it continues its slide down the sewer, enwrapped in its celebration of homo depravity.
I have total admiration for Putin for his actions over this. He’s showing the kind of bravery and leadership I don’t see much of over here, even if there is a bit of domestic political motivation on his part.
You can bet the Bed Wetting Free Trade Commie Globalist types in the GOP are not happy Putin is getting conservative respect....
and every TV network would be...
but opposition leaders would have “accidents”... or turn blue and die... or be arrested for whatever pretext
Simple — Putin looks out for the interests of his country, Russia, and the h*ll with his enemies and everyone else.
Obama looks out for the interests of our enemies and everyone else and the h*ll with his country, the US. Well, I guess this is not quite correct — it’s questionable whether the US is or isn’t his country.
And you know that how?
Because when you scratch a protectionist, you find a totalitarian who only wants the trains to run on time.
I think we wish we had a president that loved his country, unlike Obama that loves the Soviet Union.
Proved my point.
Putin is making better strategic choices than most western leaders. He may be playing a rather complex deep game and may not necessarily hold to his current positions. For me it is not a question of cheering him on, but knowing what is right or wrong for our North American society (which is essentially the same large-scale sort of thing in Canada as in the U.S.A. with obvious important differences). Our leaders are making different choices than Putin in terms of who to support in the Middle East conflicts, what to say about the massive fraud of climate change economics, and to different extents on the rainbow agenda. I would describe the Canadian government as further along but less enthused, two factors that might perhaps cancel out so we could say that we’re all at about the same point now in terms of sliding down the slippery slope to oblivion.
Who knows whether Putin is sincere on his opposition to the rainbow agenda, or whether he’s actually driving that opposition or just tolerating it for now. But it is the right response for social integrity and cultural survival. Two or three generations later, I fear that any society which adopts the rainbow abd green agenda will be dormant and easy pickings for something like militant global Islam.
Russia seems to have summoned up the will to fight these threats. We are at the point of welcoming the Trojan horse and admiring the view as it comes inside our fortress. Our leaders just can’t wait to open up and see what’s inside.
“I’ve never understood it either.”
See my post 29.
Two can play the game of sophistry.
Putin actually likes his country....can’t say that for some of the anti-American globalist types all bothered about it.
That’s right, comrade. I always suspected you were posting from the basement of the Kremlin.
You and Obama still holding hands? You and your fellow Free Traders are some of the biggest statists around. You should tell us how great Obama’s Free Trade deal with the EU is going to be....those carbon taxes must be great in your America hater mind
Putin wouldn’t fit American culture, my hot headed friend. However, Putin successfully installed a flat tax, balanced his budget, understands the corrosive effect of the homosexual movement on his own society, and has what appears to be his national interests as his strategic and tactical imperatives.
As such, having a man such as this, an American with a similar agenda and list of accomplishments, would be better than the quisling we currently have occupying the office who only pretends at being American.
You sort of get it now?
The choice is easy. We’ve got ourselves a committed, true believer marxist in the White Hut. Russia and the Soviet Bloc hasn’t had true believer marxists since 1960-70. All the true believer marxists have been in the West. Our marxist POTUS has adjusted to the limitations of the US Constitution and is constantly testing them. Just like Bill Ayers had taught him. There is no reason to think that Putin, were he the US president, wouldn’t do likewise. Except that he is a nationalist, defender of traditional culture, and definitely not a marxist.
No, because anyone who wishes for a Putin-type deserves to get an Obama-type instead. They’re just too dumb to see it.
The man is obviously very intelligent. I would suggest that the above gives some reason to hope that his reforms are genuine. At any rate, what he is doing in these regards, is certainly no threat to the American heritage. The threats to the American heritage, I fear, are largely centered in our own Government today.
He supports Christianity and is a man and a patriot.
NONE of the preceding describes the Obamabastard.
“This is a truly grievous misunderstanding of the reality of religion and politics in 21st Century Russia.”
Maybe, maybe not. I don’t think Cathy Young or any of the people she cites as opposition have a really good handle on that particular subject. It’s more complicated than can be treated in a few hundred words.
And to our own "leaders," Mittens, McStupid, Bonehead, etc.
“If Putin was president here, Jim Robinson would be in prison and you’d be whining that you cannot find an internet forum to post upon. “
Umm... The way things are going here, that day is not far off.
As far as I know, Putin never bowed to a foreign king.
Sure - if corruption, cancelling elections, crushing peaceful dissent, "disappearing" political opponents, having the government control the media & nationalizing private businesses is your thing, comrade.
Which leads to another question (and I don't think it's a thread hijack): if Vladi determined that embracing the gay agenda would solidify his power, would he do so? If not, why not?