[John Valentine]

I am familiar with that ABA Report and with the circumstances which led to its creation, and as a result, I do not consider it authoritative.

[nathanbedford]

The American Bar Association has issued reports in the past on other subjects which have proved to have been "authoritative." There is a previous thread in which some of us engaged in colloquy in which it was observed that the American Bar Association would naturally write a report in defense of the establishment. This bias was well understood by those of us who contributed to that thread.

I point out that the ABA report offers citations which include, the United States Constitution, the Federalist papers, various state constitutions, Supreme Court opinions, history of previous ratifications, history of previous applications for conventions, and more.

I did not recommend the ABA report to you as the definitive authority, I recommended the report to you because it raises issues which you in your reply dismissed citing no authority whatsoever except for the article which is the subject matter of this thread.

Intellectual honesty compels us to advise the readers of this thread of a very influential point of view which is available to them at the click of their mouse.