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A Devastating Affirmative-Action Failure: Predictable Results from a Berkeley Case Study
National Review ^ | 08/26/2013 | Heather MacDonald

Posted on 08/26/2013 7:12:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ConservativeDude

Old School Fools aint DOWN with the program!!

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41 posted on 08/26/2013 8:12:13 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: headstamp 2

“Sometimes we feel like we’re not wanted on campus,” Kashawn said, surrounded at a dinner table by several of his dorm mates, all of them nodding in agreement. “It’s usually subtle things, glances or not being invited to study groups. Little, constant aggressions.”

Somehow I had the impression that Berkeley was overrun with white liberals who worship at the altar of diversity and inclusion. This comment leads one to believe it is full of redneck racists.


42 posted on 08/26/2013 8:12:54 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: headsonpikes

have retained the capacity for critical thought.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It is stunning that so many conservatives who are rational in every other way, continue to believe that government single-payer schooling can be fixed.

Gee! If we could only go back to the old K-12 system.....( Head banging against computer desk.)


43 posted on 08/26/2013 8:14:56 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sick of commenting on this $h!t. Colleges are never going to change. They’re going to give free admission to low IQ minorities, fill them with this ‘racial oppression’ $h!t, give them grades they don’t deserve, and send them out to be hired by kiss-a$$ corporations or government agencies, where they will get a salary for being a minority.

Then our kids who paid their own college tuition and the tuition for the minorities are passed over for jobs because they are “White.”

After all that, we are called racist for breathing.
I’m sick of it.


44 posted on 08/26/2013 8:17:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back
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To: SeekAndFind

More than likely, being an unfortunate result of a “mis-contraception”, his misuse of academic sounding words were totally “in-venereal”


45 posted on 08/26/2013 8:18:03 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: SeekAndFind

The tragic figure in this story is not Kashawn. It’s the unknown Asian-American kid from Fremont with a straight-A average and very high test scores whose place at Berkeley was taken away by the self-righteous administrators, who admitted Kashawn instead to fill their quota.


46 posted on 08/26/2013 8:18:20 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: SeekAndFind

My only issue on McDonald with this is dinging for counselor for advising that he accept doing his best. Hundreds of years of ‘Gentleman’s C’ college students have adjusted to mediocre grades, whether by limits in ability or effort.

I think the counselor knew what he or she was doing.


47 posted on 08/26/2013 8:18:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: txrefugee

those “traditional” new school NAMES...that some people...saddle thier offspring with...are intended to make those kids feel SPECIAL....thereby boosting their self esteem.

Imani...Ebony...Shanice...Aaliyah...Precious..Nia...Deja [?]... Diamond..Asia

The Top 20 ‘Whitest’ and ‘Blackest’ Names

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2470131&page=1

you just HAVE to know that such choice names will help a “student” excel..


48 posted on 08/26/2013 8:19:47 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: Soul of the South

“It’s usually subtle things, glances or not being invited to study groups. Little, constant aggressions.”
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So?...Suck it up! Cope! Find strategies. Be assertive.

I was a woman majoring in the hard sciences and was **often** the only woman in the class. There were rarely more than 3 woman in a auditorium class of more than 100. I later entered a male dominated profession. In a school of 600 professional students there were 12 ( Yes, TWELVE) women students!


49 posted on 08/26/2013 8:19:51 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Tigerized
"It takes a case study to confirm what most people know instinctively; that placing a poor student in an academically stringent arena, where he or she is doomed to fail, is of no benefit to anybody."

Least of all the "favored" individual. My true but sad story. I worked for many years for one of the biggest chemical companies in the US, at one of their deep South sites. The company (affirmative action) hired a significant number of black technical employees. My group landed (and I worked directly with) probably 5-6.

One poor soul had gone up through "black" institutions his entire academic career (black high school, black universities) to the stated level of having a masters degree in chemistry. He worked directly for me. The poor soul just did NOT have either the necessary skills nor the necessary intelligence to function in the job. He barely performed at the level of a high school grad. Needless to say, he eventually departed the company, convinced the whole time that it was "the system" that was the reason.

The really sad part is that he was right...but not in the way he thought.

By comparison, some of those I worked with had come up through "all-black" but CATHOLIC parochial schools. Same demographic population, same cultural background, but NO "affirmative action" grade/performance inflation.

THOSE blacks could compete on an equal level with any other employee of the company of comparable academic background.

Affirmative action is NOT a positive!

50 posted on 08/26/2013 8:20:00 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: BilLies
"I had to earn my way through school....wonder who paid for Kashawn and his friends."

You did (and I did). All those Pell grants and such are paid through tax funds.

51 posted on 08/26/2013 8:22:22 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: GeronL
this kids butt is parked at the racist UC-Berkeley where he obviously did not belong

He is one of hundreds of thousands over the last 40 years who got special treatment.

I could relate a true story of a young lady (black) who had a BA degree in psychology. Our supervisor hired her (1979) as a technical writer. The poor girl could not even form a comprehensive sentence. She managed to muddle along for several weeks by getting help from others. Those 'others' had their own work to do and didn't have to do her work, too.

Several of us approached the head writer, who also had similar feelings. None previously wanted to say anything for fear of being called racists. But, the gig could not continue. The head writer went to the supervisor and he did dismiss the girl because she was in her probationary period.

I always wondered how she got through high school and got through college. The only thing I could conclude was Affirmative Action helped her along.
52 posted on 08/26/2013 8:23:15 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: TomGuy
Our supervisor hired her (1979) as a technical writer. The poor girl could not even form a comprehensive sentence.

The Michelle Obama school of writing?
53 posted on 08/26/2013 8:24:02 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Wonder Warthog
“It took awhile for him to understand there was a problem,” [his instructor] said. “He could not believe that he needed more skills. He would revise his papers and each time he would turn his work back in having complicated it. The paper would be full of words he thought were academic, writing the way he thought a college student should write, using big words he didn’t have command of.”

Sounds like his instructor was cut from the same cloth.
54 posted on 08/26/2013 8:25:39 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Jonty30

Yep, a failing student would be very tough to tutor in a study group.


55 posted on 08/26/2013 8:26:43 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

If you read the whole article in the LA Times, you will see they let in another black guy from the slums who was an a natural intellectual. He really cut lose in college, and aced all the difficult courses.

The black guy who didn’t do so well reminds me of a couple of white guys I met in college, who were just educated beyond their mental abilities. They wrote similar types of papers full of big words with no clear concepts behind them.


56 posted on 08/26/2013 8:30:23 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: MeshugeMikey

I find the choice of ‘Asia’ to be an interesting one.

But the choice of name to me is a microcosm of the conflict one may feel in trying not to reject one’s own race and yet having reason to feel ambivalent, at best, about the associated culture.


57 posted on 08/26/2013 8:31:30 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SMARTY
Students (ANY students) cannot leap frog basics in grade school ...

Bingo! All over the country, school districts are spending a fortune of our tax money trying to teach high school subjects to students who did not learn in elementary school to read, write, and do arithmetic. There are all sorts of specialists, technology, curriculum creativity, and excuses ... but the problems originated and need to be fixed at the 1st-3rd grade level.

The only real solution would be to have students without basic skills go into classes where they are taught, no matter what age they are. Significantly, we have such classes outside the schools-blob: they're called "adult literacy and numeracy" programs. They're taught by volunteers usually working for private organizations, and the students are there because they have decided they need the skills they don't have.

58 posted on 08/26/2013 8:31:48 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind
That's why the Black Grievance Industry has branched out from the college and university levels.

It's just the beginning of a long-term plan. Once they've been given a degree (that has value to those who earned it), they are placed in a government agency or private corporation or university that is seeking the same public praise of "celebrating diversity". But rather than being placed where meaningful work is performed, they generally are given high profile positions that actually require little by way of results.

After years of perfunctory, highly rated performance reviews, they build a resume that looks impressive enough that they can get real jobs; and then they flame out, some times with disastrous results.

Does the name Franlin Raines ring a bell? How about Barack Obama?

59 posted on 08/26/2013 8:32:58 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: jdsteel

AMEN.

Recently the Los Angeles School District voted to give EVERY student an I-Pad.

Already they cannot write- now they don’t have to——until they have to be employed.

It is a must for the high schools to push these underachievers thru the pipeline today because if they keep getting ‘put back’, you end up with 18 year old freshmen in high schools.

This is what employers have to deal with when they are shoved out into the world of real jobs & real skills being required. I can show you kids with a high school diploma that (I would not hire to fill my horse water tanks.


60 posted on 08/26/2013 8:33:57 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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