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To: DiogenesLamp
The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens.

Aside from the English common law is not federal law argument, Blackstone says the same thing.

1 Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England; that is, within the ligeance, or, as it is generally called, the allegiance, of the king;
Chapter X , William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England

Natural born subjects are born on the soil of England AND within the Allegiance of the King

How can you be born 'within' an Allegiance?

Because your parents are already there.

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I guess I just don't understand why people find this so difficult. The law of inheritance is what entitled Kings to their crowns, allows us to inherit property from our parents and gives us legal rights over our children.

WHY does everyone act like it's some big, convoluted mystery that you inherit your citizenship the same way, and that inherited citizenship is a naturally born one?

99 posted on 08/28/2013 7:37:18 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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To: MamaTexan
Aside from the English common law is not federal law argument, Blackstone says the same thing.

1 Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England; that is, within the ligeance, or, as it is generally called, the allegiance, of the king; Chapter X , William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England

Natural born subjects are born on the soil of England AND within the Allegiance of the King

How can you be born 'within' an Allegiance?

Because your parents are already there.

I have pointed out before that not even ENGLISH law goes so far as they want American Law to go. What's more, the ENGLISH quit using the Jus Soli rule back in the late 19th century, if I remember correctly.

Yes, they interpret Blackstone in the most liberal manner possible, and completely ignore the fact that the English Executive branch is solely governed by just sanguinus. (Right by Blood.)

I will also point out that Other writers on English law made the distinction between "natural born subjects" and Denizens much clearer than did Blackstone. Have you seen this?

See that part where it says "for it is not cælum nor solum that make a subject, but being born within the Allegiance, and under the protection of the King."

Those words "cælum nor solum" mean Sky and Soil. It means that the place where you are born is not the critical factor for determining allegiance, it is the spiritual bond which your parents hold to the King that obligates someone to the same allegiance.

The English, in general, did not trust the children of Non-English parents in positions of authority.

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Though they wish us to follow the ENGLISH rule for citizenship, the English were never so foolish about it as are we.

107 posted on 08/29/2013 8:30:34 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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