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Texting a Driver Could Get You in Trouble [ Idiot Judged in Christie's New Jersey]
Hispanic Business.com ^ | 8/28/13

Posted on 08/29/2013 6:00:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

New Jersey drivers face fines for texting while driving and prison time when they cause death or injury.

Now, a state appellate court has decided it's not just drivers who can wind up in trouble for texting: Message senders can also be held responsible in civil cases, if they know the recipient is driving and likely to read the text while behind the wheel.

In an opinion published Tuesday, the appellate court agreed with a Morris County Superior Court judge's decision to dismiss a claim against a 17-year-old girl who texted 18-year-old Kyle Best before his pickup crossed the center line of a road and struck a husband and wife on their motorcycle.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: freedom; idiocy
So SENDING a text to a driver can make you liable, according to some black robed idjits in Jersey....

So can I sue morons who voted for Obama?

1 posted on 08/29/2013 6:00:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

That’s quite a stretch. I get texts while driving but never read them till I stop. So what happens if I read a text and then pull out into traffic and immediately get in an accident?


2 posted on 08/29/2013 6:04:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why not the same for a cell phone call? What about waving to your friend as he drives by? He’d have to take one hand off the wheel. Are drive thru restaurants liable if you have an accident while eating?

This is the same mentality as the bar tender being responsible for serving too much.


3 posted on 08/29/2013 6:06:20 AM PDT by albie (re)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m beginning to think that just as politics is there for people without the intellectual ability to do useful work, judgeships are there for those lawyers who are unable to do useful law. (Liberal judges, at least.)


4 posted on 08/29/2013 6:07:04 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SoFloFreeper

So now you have to know when someone is driving or not? The NSA app for that isn’t out yet.


5 posted on 08/29/2013 6:07:08 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Pretty funny stuff. If I had not given up all hope that this system is not going to crash and burn, this story would create an emotional response.

Now, I just think it’s funny.


6 posted on 08/29/2013 6:09:38 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Everybody is liable for everything here in NJ. Except the “protected” classes. Funny, though illegal, at least 1/4 of the drivers on the road are on the phone.


7 posted on 08/29/2013 6:13:26 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: jughandle

Reminds me of the inner city “youths” who shoot up the cities. THEY are never responsible for stealing the gun, loading it, and pulling the trigger, the gun maker is.

Same theory here.

Utter insanity.


8 posted on 08/29/2013 6:19:05 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jughandle
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9 posted on 08/29/2013 6:31:56 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

*Message senders can also be held responsible in civil cases, if they know the recipient is driving and likely to read the text while behind the wheel.*

How stupid!
The responsibility is with the driver.


10 posted on 08/29/2013 6:32:34 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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11 posted on 08/29/2013 6:32:45 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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when I text....I try to think of where the recipient is. If I think they are in a car I do not text. reading texts and texting is WAY too dangerous.

but of course there is no way to know where the recipient is. and this Judge is just a WAD.


12 posted on 08/29/2013 6:34:24 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I wonder if a chip couldn’t be in every smart phone that would attach a notice to any text message that the sender wasn’t driving.

It wouldn’t be a panacea, but if the driver got into a serious accident, the time stamped message could be used as evidence of gross negligence on the part of the idiot that was driving while texting.


13 posted on 08/29/2013 6:56:31 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: SoFloFreeper; Vaquero; albie; cripplecreek; Hillarys Gate Cult
when I text....I try to think of where the recipient is. If I think they are in a car I do not text. reading texts and texting is WAY too dangerous. but of course there is no way to know where the recipient is. and this Judge is just a WAD.

Same here. I do not text or use my cell phone at all while driving – I keep it in my purse or turned off if I am charging it. It is very dangerous, some say even more dangerous to some extent than driving while “moderately” drunk. (The reasoning being that even an impaired driver is paying or probably trying to pay attention to the road while someone looking at the cell phone and reading or writing texts (or posting to FaceBook, Twittering, surfing the web, etc.), is not paying any attention at all during those times – an impaired driver will have a slower reaction response but will still have a reaction response, where as if you have your face buried in a cell phone, your reaction time is zero).

But if you read the entire article, what the court did in this ruling was to uphold the dismissal of the lawsuit filed against the 17 year old who was texting the 18 year old driver who caused the injury accident, citing that there wasn’t enough evidence that she had culpability for the accident.

“While the appellate court found that the Kuberts -- who also sued the girl after learning that she and Best had exchanged 62 texts the day of the crash -- didn't present enough evidence for the claim, it said other third-party texters could be held liable in accidents, depending on what they knew about the driver receiving the messages.

"We do not hold that someone who texts to a person driving is liable for that person's negligent actions," the opinion said.

But "when a texter knows or has special reason to know that the intended recipient is driving and is likely to read the text message while driving," the opinion said, "the texter has a duty to users of the public roads to refrain from sending the driver a text at that time."

The way I read this is “if” the sender of the text knows full well that the recipient is behind the wheel and responding to the sender by texting back while driving, when it is known by the sender that the recipient is driving, i.e. has “special reason to know”; then the sender could also be held culpable. I might be somewhat analogous to being a passenger in a car driven by someone who is drinking behind the wheel and passing them even more alcohol to drink.

If you have about 35 minutes and especially if you think texting while driving is no big deal or have teenagers with cars and smart phones, watch this.

From One Second To The Next

14 posted on 08/29/2013 7:18:39 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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