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IRS issues tax rules for married gay couples
AP via FOX News ^ | August 29, 2013 | AP

Posted on 08/29/2013 12:07:12 PM PDT by GIdget2004

The government is issuing the regulations needed to allow gay couples married in states that recognize same-sex marriages to file joint federal tax returns.

Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew says the new rules will provide "clear, coherent tax filing guidance for all legally married same-sex couples nationwide."

Lew said the regulations also make clear that legally married same-sex couples will be able to move freely throughout the country and their federal tax filing status will not change.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; irs; queerlybeloved

1 posted on 08/29/2013 12:07:12 PM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

All this with no congressional oversight on as matter not yet settled nationally.


2 posted on 08/29/2013 12:10:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: GIdget2004
And what's the next part? How many rules are needed to file a married filing jointly return?

No......There is more! What is it? Gay tax credits? Special gay housing credits? What are we not being told?

3 posted on 08/29/2013 12:12:02 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Vendome
All this with no congressional oversight on as matter not yet settled nationally.

Yes, and I would be willing to bet, that they will get more tax breaks than Herero sexual married couples.

4 posted on 08/29/2013 12:13:01 PM PDT by Mark17 (Yesterday I couldn't spell it. Today I are one, a creepy a$$ cracker)
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To: GIdget2004
Lew said the regulations also make clear that legally married same-sex couples will be able to move freely throughout the country and their federal tax filing status will not change.

So how does that happen, if these people move to states who do not recognize their "marriages"?

5 posted on 08/29/2013 12:13:12 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: Vendome

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6 posted on 08/29/2013 12:15:24 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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7 posted on 08/29/2013 12:16:00 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
So how does that happen, if these people move to states who do not recognize their "marriages"?

Presumably they would file a joint Federal return and separate State returns.

8 posted on 08/29/2013 12:16:30 PM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I was also wondering how it will work in states that don’t support gay marriage, if they filed their federal return as “married, filing jointly”, then how will they file their state returns? Turbo Tax is going to have to come out with a whole new product “Deluxe Homo”.


9 posted on 08/29/2013 12:16:34 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Vendome

IRS making up RULES as they go along. Not legal period!


10 posted on 08/29/2013 12:19:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: GIdget2004
Abolish the IRS. Save BILLIONSannually: replace 'em with a Fair/Flat Tax.
11 posted on 08/29/2013 12:23:34 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: GIdget2004; GeronL; wagglebee

If the Federal government is recognizing same sex marriages and a state (like Texas) doesn’t have state income tax, why would the couple need to reside in a state that recognizes same sex marriages since the state isn’t involved, the Fed is?


12 posted on 08/29/2013 12:26:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: GIdget2004

Why this vicious prejudice against non-legally married couples? This is worse than any racism, homophobianism , anti - bestiality or anti- pedophile laws. I demand my lifestyle and personal sexuality not be denigrated.

NLMC’s deserve, no demand equality.


13 posted on 08/29/2013 12:26:52 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: GIdget2004

...and where is this authority coming from -Obama’s magical ass?


14 posted on 08/29/2013 12:28:19 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: GIdget2004

So higher income “married” gays now get to experience the federal “marriage penalty”?

Loving it!!


15 posted on 08/29/2013 12:30:11 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

The liberals are making this up as they go along. The liberals don’t care if they move to a state which doesn’t allow homosexual marriage. In such a case, the fact that they once lived in such a state, or were married in such a state, whether residents of that state or not, is good enough for the liberals.


16 posted on 08/29/2013 12:41:50 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Because what is coming is “full faith and credit”. This is a war lost.

Someone posted yesterday, and I agree, that many delude themselves that we live in a center right Nation. We do not. We are center left and like a wagon down a hill are heading Left Left Left. I don’t think some appreciate how far gone we are and there is no coming back. Oh we’ll win a little bit here and there. We may even take back the senate in (2014 though in 2016 we’ll lose 7-10 seats). But demographics and GOP ignorance have killed us.

There is no going back. And yes, I wont quit fighting either, but my America is gone forever. And so is yours.


17 posted on 08/29/2013 12:57:07 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Dilbert San Diego

This will throw everyone for a loop: If you are in a gay marriage, then how do you prove to me that both parties are gay! It cannot be done, there is no “gay” gene. If both parties say they are gay, it simply means they practice gay behaviours. But certainly one can practice gay behaviors and still not be gay. Since when does a personal preference allow one access to the institution of marriage?


18 posted on 08/29/2013 1:00:07 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: RIghtwardHo
Because what is coming is “full faith and credit”.

To my mind, what is coming is 'full faith and credit when the liberals say so'. There's no way you'll ever see concealed carry, to cite just one example, honored across state lines. That's the most discouraging part of all.

You are quite right though. The lack of a true opposition party at the national level spells impending disaster. I'm not going to quit fighting either, secure in the knowledge that God wins in the end.

19 posted on 08/29/2013 1:00:53 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: GIdget2004

Setting the stage for an “equal protection” Supreme Court ruling forcing all states to recognize poofter partnerships.


20 posted on 08/29/2013 1:01:35 PM PDT by lightman (Prosecute the heresies; pity the heretics.)
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To: GIdget2004

So this is what Obama is concentrating on as war with Syria looms....


21 posted on 08/29/2013 1:08:17 PM PDT by massmike (At the heart of every Paul-bot argument is the fear that someone will keep them from their weed!)
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To: GIdget2004
This is even a perversion of the court decision rendered, which purported to respect "states' rights" of homosexuals "married" IN THOSE STATES. What about the rights of states that don't recognize these abominable constructs? So much for the original reason for the lawsuit.

Get ready for the lawsuits to now push these states to legally recognize these perverted unions now that the fed government does - count on it.

22 posted on 08/29/2013 2:22:18 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
To my mind, what is coming is 'full faith and credit when the liberals say so'.

True. The "full faith and credit" meme is just a pretext to push the liberal agenda when it suits them. What about the MAJORITY of states which don't recognize these constructs? How come OUR right to project our state laws into these other leftist states doesn't matter?

23 posted on 08/29/2013 2:24:22 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: GIdget2004; All
The government is issuing the regulations needed to allow gay couples married in states that recognize same-sex marriages to file joint federal tax returns.

Coming from the feds, this is a surprising but welcome acknowledgement of 10th Amendment protected state power to regulate marriage. (Note that the Supreme Court did not strike down a major part of DOMA regardless what currupt media wants everybody to think.)

And for those patriots who think that one-man, one-woman marriage should be the law of the land as I do, contact your local, state and federal government representatives to propose an amendment to the Constitution which would make traditional marriage the law of the land.

One the other hand, I don't think that we're going to see any new amendments to the Constitution in the forseeable future (sorry Mr. Levin), but that's ultimately what it's going to take to protect traditional marriage imo.

24 posted on 08/29/2013 2:31:23 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10
Coming from the feds, this is a surprising but welcome acknowledgement of 10th Amendment protected state power to regulate marriage.

It's does nothing of the sort. This move IMPOSES another state's laws onto other states, in violation of Section 2 of DOMA, which still stands.

25 posted on 08/29/2013 2:54:14 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: nascarnation

So higher income “married” gays now get to experience the federal “marriage penalty”?

Loving it!!


The real question is whether gay “married couples” will be liable for tax evasion for filing singly, as traditional married couple are?


26 posted on 08/29/2013 3:25:47 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: fwdude; All
This move IMPOSES another state's laws onto other states, in violation of Section 2 of DOMA, which still stands.

Thank you for voicing your concern.

We're talking about federal tax regulations, not state tax regulations. The states that have actually read the Constitution know that they are still free to discriminate against any criterion which the states have not amended the Constitution to protect, so-called gay rights not protected by the Constitution.

27 posted on 08/29/2013 3:34:35 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

The criteria/allowance simply goes from a gene determination to a behavior determination.


28 posted on 08/29/2013 3:42:42 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: GIdget2004
And this little further nugget of disregard for the rule of law:

From the IRS website:

Individuals who were in same-sex marriages may, but are not required to, file original or amended returns choosing to be treated as married for federal tax purposes for one or more prior tax years still open under the statute of limitations.

So, the law is made retroactive to a period BEFORE the supreme court decision was issued. What an arrogant, lawless administration this is. We have no obligation whatsoever to obey it.

29 posted on 08/29/2013 3:50:27 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Vendome

“Thank you,” Justice Kennedy, for opening the floodgates of perversion upon this nation.


30 posted on 08/29/2013 3:54:16 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

You’ve got that right. All this does is set a uniform federal policy, needed once SCOTUS gutted DOMA. It does not impact the laws or regulations of any individual state. Yet.


31 posted on 08/29/2013 4:02:03 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: fwdude

Individuals who were in same-sex marriages may, but are not required to, file original or amended returns choosing to be treated as married for federal tax purposes


Interestingly, the gays MAY choose whether to file singly or as married. Straights do not have that option.

Serious equal protection problem.


32 posted on 08/29/2013 5:16:44 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: highball
It does not impact the laws or regulations of any individual state. Yet.

This new IRS policy is the biggest hammer yet given to the sodomites to wage a powerful attack against ALL sane states. What other status is more recognized that a federal status? And the Obamanation will simply say that federal law supercedes state law when they are in opposition. Expect, within mere weeks, to see Homobama declare all state marriage amendments null and void. Seriously. This is about to happen.

33 posted on 08/29/2013 5:28:11 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Ofcourse it’s “good enough” as the have a legal document from a state indicating they are in a legal marriage union, and simplifies the rules.


34 posted on 09/02/2013 5:20:36 PM PDT by tekcomputers
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35 posted on 09/02/2013 5:22:04 PM PDT by narses
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To: fwdude

The regulation is related to the filing of federal income tax, it has no bearing on states rights short of the federal government in this case honoring the marriages issued by states which allow for same-sex marriages.


36 posted on 09/02/2013 6:08:23 PM PDT by tekcomputers
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To: Amendment10

Anyone who thinks that “one man one woman” should be the law of the land by constitutional amendment is by definition not a patriot.


37 posted on 09/02/2013 6:08:23 PM PDT by tekcomputers
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To: fwdude

Pleasee explain how this “imposes” anything on other states? The regulation only applies to the filing of federal tax returns, it has no bearing on the state of residence of the party in question.


38 posted on 09/02/2013 6:10:35 PM PDT by tekcomputers
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To: fwdude

When elements of laws are nullified, it’s possible to seek redress for those laws up to the limitations imposed. Please do not confuse this with “ex post facto” ex post facto is a legislative operation where a law is changed or added to retroactively apply penalties, in this case the the nullification of the element of law allows for the people to seek redress from the government under the new standard.


39 posted on 09/02/2013 6:10:35 PM PDT by tekcomputers
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To: tekcomputers; All
Anyone who thinks that “one man one woman” should be the law of the land by constitutional amendment is by definition not a patriot.

That settles that. I'm evidently not a patriot.

40 posted on 09/02/2013 6:28:49 PM PDT by Amendment10
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