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Trying to raise a family on a fast-food salary
Reuters (Opinion) ^ | August 29, 2013 | By Christine Owens-Wanker

Posted on 08/29/2013 9:15:48 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Fast-food workers in more than 50 cities Thursday are striking for fair pay and the right to form a union — the biggest walkout to hit the industry.

What can we do to address this low-wage jobs crisis? Exerting pressure on the fast-food and retail giants that rake in billions in profits is a good starting point. These companies can afford to share more of their wealth with their frontline workers and should be doing so.

Boosting wages for America’s lowest-paid workers is a crucial step toward reducing economic inequality and rebuilding a strong economy. Perhaps 50 years from now, we’ll look back on the fast-food workers’ fight as the catalyst we so desperately needed.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: econ101; marxists; minimumwage; socialism; wankers
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1 posted on 08/29/2013 9:15:48 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What a wanker.


2 posted on 08/29/2013 9:16:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Raising those wages actually lowers them because they lose their jobs.


3 posted on 08/29/2013 9:17:25 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: dfwgator

You can’t make this stuff up.


4 posted on 08/29/2013 9:18:29 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: All

These are jobs for High School kids to break into the job field and gain some experience and people skills and then move on.

These jobs are stepping stones, not career choices.


5 posted on 08/29/2013 9:19:33 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Ask the MSM about Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. Observe the subsequent blank stares.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hey Wanker! You stuck in a teenager’s entry level burger flipper job? Get an education. Get a job. Get a life!


6 posted on 08/29/2013 9:19:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
We went to Mickey D's tonight...on purpose.

Up your nose with a garden hose SEIU.

7 posted on 08/29/2013 9:20:23 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The R&D budget for industrial robots just got a raise, too.


8 posted on 08/29/2013 9:21:37 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Raise a family on a fast food wage? Probably can’t be done, or not done well. Minimum wage entry level positions are just that, a stepping stone to something better - not a career choice. Yeah, that means you may have to wait, put off your family plans until you move on to something better.


9 posted on 08/29/2013 9:30:14 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What is this?

A science fiction thread?!

This is from another planet. With no intelligent life.

10 posted on 08/29/2013 9:34:04 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

You must be a racist, a homophobe, an imperialist capitalist patriarchal something or other to introduce logic, reason and uhh... math and economics into this.


11 posted on 08/29/2013 9:35:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Trying to raise a family on a fast-food salary

Why are you trying to raise a family on a fast-food salary?

Is it because you have lost your higher paying job and this is a bridge job?

Then my sympathy.

If you started a family without having gotten married and having a steady job, then what the heck were you thinking?

And why is a lack of planing on your part a concern on my part?

12 posted on 08/29/2013 9:35:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: zeestephen
Here's your next burger-flipper, cretin. Marxist economics doesn't recognize Capital-Labor Substitution and achievement of economic efficiency.


13 posted on 08/29/2013 9:36:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: stboz

Union goons like SEIU are the only people that really benefit from this stuff.
They have contracts that tie their wage to the minimum wage.

Minimum wage goes up and your $35 an hour union wage goes up.
Everybody else gets screwed.
Especially people on fixed incomes.


14 posted on 08/29/2013 9:38:07 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I don't seriously believe that fast food jobs were ever intended to be a career. They were the jobs kids took in the summer and after school, folks looking to make a little extra, and those who just had no options took to make some money, but not a career track.

It is a measure of how bad the economy is when people are trying to raise a family in such a professional position, but it may be equally a measure of the ability of large numbers of current High School (or equivalent--or not) graduates.

If burger flipping is as ambitious as today's workforce gets, we're doomed.

15 posted on 08/29/2013 9:41:07 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

These idiots do realize that raising the minimum wage will have an across the board cost effect and their new higher wage will likely have the same, or slightly less buying power right?

Oh wait, they are working a minimum wage job because they are not smart enough to advance up the ladder.

My bad.


16 posted on 08/29/2013 9:43:38 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: cableguymn

The unions are pushing increasing the minimum wage, because many union contracts are pegged to it.


17 posted on 08/29/2013 9:44:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Here's a video of one of the strikers confronting fast food management.
18 posted on 08/29/2013 9:45:35 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: mylife

Exactly. Washington State tied it’s minimum wage to inflation after unions pushed through a ballot initiative. Now the unions get a COL raise each year without having to negotiate for it. Minimum wage is now $ 9.15.


19 posted on 08/29/2013 9:47:28 PM PDT by alpo (What would Selco do?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When I was a kid I baby sat, worked in a department store for holidays and then part time while in college, the post office during Christmas, my cousins picked berries n the summer. Never did we think these would be our ultimate job. We had better plans that fortunately worked out.


20 posted on 08/29/2013 9:48:57 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This bimbo author should demand double her pay and then she would need to learn the phrase: “Ya want fries with that?”


21 posted on 08/29/2013 9:49:56 PM PDT by Mark (Donate to FreeRepublic now.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Raise their wages.

Then cut their hours.

Ms. Wanker is awfully free with other people’s money. Typical liberal.


22 posted on 08/29/2013 9:52:37 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
In contrast, loved Ashton Kutcher's speech that he not better than any job (even minimum wage jobs) he had and believed in hard work -
http://youtu.be/zuBSRC1zpHw

23 posted on 08/29/2013 9:53:20 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think we should pass a special law that requires any business with a drive through window to pay their employees $50 per hour and contribute 25% to their 401k and provide them with no deductible heath insurance and 6 weeks paid vacation per year and overtime over 29 hours per week.

Additionally the employer must contribute $1500 per year for each employee’s child under the age of 26 for a scholarship fund.

I know I would lose weight under this plan.


24 posted on 08/29/2013 9:53:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hey Christine, how about putting the blame where it belongs. And that’s with your Lord and Savior Obama. He’s single-handedly destroying virtually every well paying full-time job out there with the ObamaCare debacle.


25 posted on 08/29/2013 9:55:24 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Fast-food workers are in the lowest paid occupational category. The median hourly wage for frontline fast-food workers is $8.94 nationally. Many don’t even earn that. A shortage of hours further limits income. Fast-food workers work only 24 hours a week on average — at $8.94 an hour, this adds up to barely $11,000 a year.

This putz talks like it is a right to have a full time job.

Well guess what if you only work 24 hours a week at your job you have plenty of time to work a second job or look for a full time better paying job.

If these people want to know why fast food wages haven’t gone up they can blame Obama. It is Obama that has swelled the unemployment rolls and refused to deport low skill illegal immigrants. The reason low skilled jobs pay so little is because there is a huge surplus of low skilled workers.

Obama’s policies have put so many people on the streets looking for work that the fast food industry does not have to compete for workers. The law of supply and demand applies to labor as well as goods.

You may remember back in GW Bush's first term that fast food restaurants in many areas had to pay above minimum wage to get enough workers. Well welcome to the age of Obama when if there were not minimum wage laws fast food workers would be paid less than they are because there is a glut of low skilled labor thanks to Obama’s policies.

26 posted on 08/29/2013 9:55:49 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: alpo

That is why it benefits them to be community agitators.


27 posted on 08/29/2013 9:56:05 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As I remember it fast food jobs are historically entry level jobs. Thats why so many high school and college kids work at Mickey Dee’s etc. Then the theory is that after a time you work your way up the ladder or train for a better job somewhere else. Its not supposed to be a career.


28 posted on 08/29/2013 10:06:05 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

I think if a guy grew up in the 1970s and 1980s...they knew that the burger flipper job was just a temp phase, and no one ever stayed more than three years. Typically, if you were still around in the fourth year...you were now the shift supervisor, and by the tenth year...you might be leaning toward assistant manager of the operation. That was the only permanent phase a person could dream on.

I think over the past twenty years...people have dumbed themselves down several notches. I can’t say anyone...even those who have degrees....are all that bright. Most appear to be fairly naive, and lacking in common sense. Maybe it was TV....booze....drugs....or just plain laziness...but this isn’t the same society that existed in the 1980s.


29 posted on 08/29/2013 10:06:32 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: stboz

Up your rear with SCUBA gear!


30 posted on 08/29/2013 10:10:59 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Trying to raise a family on a fast-food salary

If you don't care enough about your own family to improve your skill set such that you'd be worth being paid more, why in the world should anyone else?

31 posted on 08/29/2013 10:34:20 PM PDT by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Don’t these guys get welfare?


32 posted on 08/29/2013 10:50:07 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Union mentality! High wages for low skilled jobs!!


33 posted on 08/29/2013 10:50:15 PM PDT by entropy12 (With no fear of re-election, Obama is becoming more radical left..thanks a lot all you who abstained)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
If you started a family without having gotten married and having a steady job, then what the heck were you thinking?

Boy that's tough. I'm pretty much with "Cool Hand Luke" ... "I never planned anything in my life"

I guess I have a certain number of virtues going for me, as I'm situated fairly well at this late point in my life, but planning ahead sure ain't one of them.

34 posted on 08/29/2013 10:50:33 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: mylife

“You can’t make this stuff up.”

libtards do everyday. They come up with BS sob stories from their asses.


35 posted on 08/29/2013 10:54:00 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Get married to another fast food worker and, with careful budgeting, it can be done.


36 posted on 08/29/2013 10:55:00 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: stboz

So; when all of the 22 to 45 year old losers and uneducated lame brains working at McDonalds on the counter and drive-thru
windows get their SEIU mandated raise. Do you think Mickey-D’s will stop making those obnoxious commercials that are aimed at a very specific ethnic and demographic group?


37 posted on 08/29/2013 10:56:35 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
They were the jobs kids took in the summer and after school, folks looking to make a little extra, and those who just had no options took to make some money, but not a career track.

Actually that was true up until the country was flooded with illegals that would do do the work for the same price. Why hire a worthless kid when you can hire an adult for the same wage? Kids no longer need apply.

38 posted on 08/29/2013 10:58:59 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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>> These companies can afford to share more of their wealth with their frontline workers and should be doing so.

>> economic inequality

You’re an a-hole, Christine.


39 posted on 08/29/2013 10:59:20 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: mylife

For the unions, it’s not about getting them any kind of raise. It’s the union dues. For example, with 1.4 million Walmart workers, assuming they were all fulltime and paying just a nickel an hour, the union representing them would earn about $140 million dollars per year. If the union were to represent all service workers across the country, we would be talking about billions in union dues.

Of course, we know the service workers being represented would be paying more than a nickel per hour.


40 posted on 08/29/2013 11:01:07 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: 5th MEB

Welcome to the real world of liberalism. Under educated idiots that learned nothing and were to lazy to get a real job and education. This is what happens when we dumb down our society. it used to be for kids in high school and even some people that were going through hard times, now it is a way of life.


41 posted on 08/29/2013 11:04:36 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: itsahoot

This is a perfect encapsulation of “the race to the bottom”, which is no longer talked about, natch. Well... we’re here!


42 posted on 08/29/2013 11:06:06 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: itsahoot
Kids no longer need apply.

More and more, that is the case.

The long term effects of that and other policies will come home to roost.

When we were kids, we were driving tractors pulling loads of hay down the State Roads (pavement) at 12. We were cutting, raking, and baling hay (not just loading the cart and stacking it in the barn) by 14, and many of us held a commercial fisheries license by 14, too. I'd harvested my first whitetail deer at 11.

We were encouraged to be responsible, and with that demonstrated responsibility came opportunities and trust to do bigger, better things.

Nowadays, there are laws against kids who are the same age we were then doing the things we did. With nothing left to do but bum around, it is no wonder these kids get into all sorts of trouble.

43 posted on 08/29/2013 11:10:03 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: dr_lew

http://www.amazon.com/Our-Culture-Whats-Left-Mandarins/dp/156663721X


44 posted on 08/29/2013 11:11:17 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What can we do to address this low-wage jobs crisis?

No, no hyperbole here. What imbeciles. I hope these low wage, low information types follow through and screw themselves out of the jobs they currently hold.

Fast food work was never intended asd a career choice, it was always an entry level job to teach youngsters about work ethics and having a job so that they could move on to something better. Apparently, they don't aspire to anything better and think that the fast food industry should cater to their idiotic demands. It has never crossed their miniscule minds that every fast food manager/owner has about 100 applications on file for every one of their jobs and they can be replaced in a heartbeat.

However, if we assume worst case, the price of fast food will skyrocket, placing it out of reach of about half the country (or better) which means that half or more of these overpaid imbeciles will be back on the unemployment line, hopefully having learned a fundemanetal lesson in the supply and demand side of economics. The rest of us will likely refuse to pay the necessary outrageous prices for fast food, leading to the demise of the industry even quicker.

Ya gotta love idiots!!

45 posted on 08/29/2013 11:12:00 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Raise a family?

Come on...

Those people are not even paid enough for basic things like gas, utilities and rent. Forget food, insurance, health care, clothing...Those big luxuries.

Of course, nowadays, the basic things in the U.S., like paying rent, are now considered luxuries.


46 posted on 08/29/2013 11:12:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Granny maintained that such jobs were ‘Loser Filters’ after they served the purpose of charity.


47 posted on 08/29/2013 11:35:58 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: Aria

When my daughter was 12 she wanted a Gucci belt. Told her she could have one but she had to earn the money to pay for it. Shortly after that she started getting up at 4 a.m. three days a week and worked until 6:30 a.m., at a little shop down the street and stuff small plastic bags with ads that the shop owner would later hang on door knobs. When she finished would come home, have breakfast and go off to school. Saved every penny and in about a month she had enough to buy that belt which she kept for about 20 years.

Great experience for her.


48 posted on 08/29/2013 11:37:28 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: DustyMoment

Jumbo jacks were a buck ten years ago under Bush. Prices on fast food have already tripled under this administration, while the press hyenas insist with a straight face that there is no inflation.

Can you imagine what a Big Mac would cost if these people get their way? The jobs would have to be guaranteed by the government dole in some manner of fashion.


49 posted on 08/29/2013 11:44:19 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: ThunderSleeps

two parents each making $7.50 an hour= $15 an hour

voila

Perhaps they should try MARRIAGE as the best economic security to raise a family


50 posted on 08/29/2013 11:48:58 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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